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Don Henley - "The Heart Of The Matter"

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Topic: Don Henley - "The Heart Of The Matter"
Posted By: Scanner
Subject: Don Henley - "The Heart Of The Matter"
Date Posted: 18 August 2020 at 1:23pm
I searched, but was surprised I could not find a thread
for this song. This song was edited for airplay. Does
anyone know how to re-create this from the album
version?



Replies:
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 18 August 2020 at 2:00pm
The promo CD Single has an "Edit/Remix" and an "AC Edit", so it's possible that one or both may not be just simple edits of the LP Version.

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Posted By: garye
Date Posted: 18 August 2020 at 5:13pm
I have the promo edit of the song.
It times at 3:50.
I can send to anyone who wants a copy.
Just send a PM and will ship it out!
Also have "Boys Of Summer" promo edit.
Just and FYI!


Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 18 August 2020 at 6:54pm
Whenever I heard it edited on the airwaves, they
usually cut every pre-chorus ("I'm learning to live
without you now...) and went straight into the chorus
after the verses ("I've been trying to get down to the
heart of the matter..."). I can't recall if they cut
the bridge out as well but it's possible? It certainly
didn't last as long as the album cut.

This always kind of bummed me out because the pre-
chorus happened to be my favorite bit of the song and I
felt that it definitely added to the dramatic build-up
to the chorus but in terms of radio-friendliness,
they probably thought the song needed to cut to the
chase sooner.

India Arie recorded a cover of "The Heart of The
Matter" that clocked in at nearly 8 minutes and the
radio edit actually mirrored the Don Henley radio edit
almost exactly (pre-chorus removed, etc.).

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Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 19 August 2020 at 4:31am
The remix/edit added a snare drum to give the song more "punch" for Top 40 radio. I'm not sure if the AC edit on the promo CD matches the
TM Century AC edit, maybe it does, but the TM Century AC edit made the same edits that the remix/edit had, only without the added snare
drum, as the album mix was sourced. Oh wait! I see the other string now that somebody pushed up.. well anyway, I'll leave this here..


Posted By: Scanner
Date Posted: 19 August 2020 at 6:14am
Thanks all for both posts! (Don't know why I could not
retrieve the original post when I searched for it.)


Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 24 August 2020 at 1:14am
Originally posted by Bill Cahill Bill Cahill wrote:

The remix/edit added a snare drum to give the song more "punch" for Top 40 radio. I'm not sure if the AC edit on the promo CD matches the
TM Century AC edit, maybe it does, but the TM Century AC edit made the same edits that the remix/edit had, only without the added snare
drum, as the album mix was sourced. Oh wait! I see the other string now that somebody pushed up.. well anyway, I'll leave this here..


Bill,

So the AC Edit is the one radio played? Or is it the edit/remix? The edit/remix sounds more like the one I heard on the radio...

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Posted By: David Pro
Date Posted: 24 August 2020 at 5:03am
Scanner, there is another thread
regarding this song.

http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum
/forum_posts.asp?TID=1337&PN=2


Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 19 March 2021 at 4:39pm
Originally posted by LunarLaugh LunarLaugh wrote:

Whenever I heard it edited on the airwaves, they
usually cut every pre-chorus ("I'm learning to live
without you now...) and went straight into the chorus
after the verses ("I've been trying to get down to the
heart of the matter..."). I can't recall if they cut
the bridge out as well but it's possible? It certainly
didn't last as long as the album cut.

This always kind of bummed me out because the pre-
chorus happened to be my favorite bit of the song and I
felt that it definitely added to the dramatic build-up
to the chorus but in terms of radio-friendliness,
they probably thought the song needed to cut to the
chase sooner.


I couldn't agree more.

'Round these parts, they started off playing the longer version then switched to the edited pre-chorus. At first, I thought I was going senile because
nobody else I knew had noticed the edits. Nowadays, it sure is easier to find this info using the interwebs machine.

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Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 19 March 2021 at 8:42pm
Taking out an important piece of a song for the single edit, like "The Heart of the Matter", this reminds me of the 1973 single edit of Aerosmith's "Dream On." In that mix (which was all I heard on Boston radio in 1973), it edited out the pre-chorus:

Yeah, I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it's everybody's sin
You got to lose to know how to win

I guess Colubmia tried to take a song that didn't adhere to the normal song formula, and change it to verse-chorous-verse-chorus-bridge chorus.


Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 20 March 2021 at 3:16pm
Originally posted by garye garye wrote:

Also have "Boys Of Summer" promo edit.

Going by its apperance on the UK's "Top of the Pops", the promo edit of "The Boys of Summer" just appears to be omitting the intro drums, and then a rather abrupt early fade. Is that correct, or was it just an impromptu edit done for TV?


Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 20 March 2021 at 4:04pm
That's really what's on the promo 45. For what it's worth, I never once heard that version played on the radio when the song was a hit.

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Posted By: NightAire
Date Posted: 20 March 2021 at 9:08pm
Quote For what it's worth, I never once heard that version played on the radio when the song was a hit.


Really?

I know for sure the more popular top 40 station in Tulsa (a reference point, I know, lol) played the shorter intro exclusively.

When I started hearing it years later on the local ACs, those "tip, tap, tip, tip, tap" echoey drums at the beginning drove me crazy... felt like it totally crashed the energy of the station until the synths finally kicked in.

It would be interesting to survey which versions were played where across the country. It might be another case where, despite what was on the radio promo, the "hit" version might have been the LP length.

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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 21 March 2021 at 5:14pm
It could certainly vary from market to market. I was in New York City in 1985, and the NYC stations all played the full version of "The Boys Of Summer".

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Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 21 March 2021 at 8:35pm
I usually listened to a Buffalo station at the time, and
(for "The Boys of Summer") they usually played the short
version during the day and long version at night, but I
think overall I heard the long version more often.
Since the 4:47 LP version was on the commercial 45, I'd
go with that as the hit version.

As far as I can remember, at least one Toronto station
also played both in different dayparts.



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