Police "Every Little Thing She Does..."
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Topic: Police "Every Little Thing She Does..."
Posted By: aaronk
Subject: Police "Every Little Thing She Does..."
Date Posted: 24 January 2005 at 10:47pm
| I had the opportunity to hear the Police "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" 45 today (the commercial version), and this is a completely different mix than the LP version. Although Top 40 Music On CD indicates that on most CDs the song is in its LP length this should actually read LP version. The vocals are mixed differently on the 45 and there's some different reverb and delay effects used. Does anyone know if this version was ever issued on CD? |
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Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 8:09pm
| aaron........i recently reviewed this song too.........the song "every little thing she does is magic" by the police that is on the 45 issued in 1981 on a&m 2371 is the same version that is on the cd box set "message in a box:the complete recordings" BUT the 45 is faded out to run 3:58 and NOT 4:19 that the box set has......so just by fading the song out to run 3:58 you will have the 45 version...........if you need the time that the fade starts, please let me know......... |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 25 January 2005 at 9:30pm
| I have the box set, and I just listened to the song on there. It sounds exactly like the LP version to me--I also listened to "Every Breath You Take The Classics" for a comparison. The 45 sounded very different to me--not just subtle differences in the mix. Are there two different releases of the box set? Mine is a BMG issue - 31454 0150 2 is the number on the bottom of the disc. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 31 January 2005 at 12:50am
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<if you need the time that the fade starts, please let me know......... >
I would like to know the start time of the fade. Thanks. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 31 January 2005 at 12:52am
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Aaron K wrote:
<I have the box set, and I just listened to the song on there. It sounds exactly like the LP version to me--I also listened to "Every Breath You Take The Classics" for a comparison. The 45 sounded very different to me--not just subtle differences in the mix. Are there two different releases of the box set? Mine is a BMG issue - 31454 0150 2 is the number on the bottom of the disc. > Is it possible that the discrepancy is that there are 2 different versions of the 45? Maybe that's why Pat's 45 sounds like the CD but Aaron's 45 doesn't. I'll have to seek out the 45 because I love this song, and the versions I have on CD are not very clear sounding. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 31 January 2005 at 7:52am
| That's definitely a possibility, EdisonLite. I'll have to listen to my friend's 45 again, but I'm sure it sounded quite different than what I'm used to hearing. By the way, the fade on the 45 version starts around 3:47 and goes to about 4:00. The time on the label says (3:58). |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 May 2005 at 2:22pm
| I have a dub of the 45, and there definitely is a difference in the mix. There's reverb and delay on the vocals of the 45 mix that aren't present on the LP version. Also, the vocals have been brought up for the 45 mix, whereas they are somewhat buried on the LP version (including the version on the box set). The vocal mix is very noticable on the second verse. The delay is quite obvious on the second and third choruses and the bridge. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 8:34am
| I noticed that the database still indicates LP length for this song, when in fact there are mix differences between the LP & 45. The comments should read LP version. |
Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 8:21pm
| I have listened to every cd in the database and none of them feature the 45 version. Ed says he hears the 45 version on the "Message In A Box" box set but I don't agree. Any other contributors wish to comment on the version found on the box set? |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 8:55pm
| With apologies to Ed, I have to side with Pat's analysis here. The first verse vocal to me sounds WAY low on the box set, compared to the 45. (Didn't hear a vocal "delay", though.) To me, the background synth sounds are MUCH more prominent throughout on the box set - lower on the 45 mix. Also, I think the piano might stand out a bit more on the 45 mix. I think it's possible all the instruments/vocals are in the same places on both sources, but to me their levels have been clearly adjusted, giving the 45 mix a different feel - just seems 3-5% less "cluttered" on the 45 - I can hear more detail, without that loud box set v synth drowning other sounds out. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 9:26pm
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ok, guys.......i just listened to my 45 versus the box set cd version and they sound the same to me.....my 45 has a little additional static and cloudiness to the song, from the vinyl, but that shouldn't be mistaken for reverb or additional instrumentation...........I STAND BY MY ANALYSIS.....the 45 and the cd box set versions are identical except for the 45 fading out to 3:58 while the cd box set version runs 4:19........my 45 states "02371 A P3" in the run-out groove.........aaron....i will send a copy of my 45 to you for your review.......edtop40 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 10:09pm
| Due to both his passion, and the continuing high level of Ed's confidence in his analysis, I pulled out my stock 45 on this (same deadwax as Ed's, except P2 at the end). My promos are handier, and thought only one 45 version existed for this song. When Pat put out the APB, I listened to my promo. To me, my stock 45 sounds much more like that CD box set version than my promo does, which could explain the differing analyses. (Promo deadwax A&M AM 02371-A S2). Both list times as (3:58); stock actually (4:02); promo actually (4:00). Hell, they're all REAL close - perhaps our combatants should just shake hands on this one, and call it a draw... |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 10:24pm
| Has anyone considered the possibility that perhaps there might be two different pressings of the Message in a Box: The Complete Recordings box set where the mixes of "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" differ? This wouldn't be unprecedented given that this message board has documented two different pressings of the Rick Nelson Legacy box set. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 May 2006 at 10:48pm
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Ed, I sent you the 45 version on a CD-R (dubbed from a mint copy of the record). Listen to the version I sent you vs. the CD version. I agree that there doesn't appear to be any difference in instrumentation; however, the vocals are mixed much louder on the 45. Also, the delay I'm speaking of sounds like they took two of the same vocal track and layered them, one being delayed by only a split second (giving it a sort of "echo" type effect).
By the way, I've heard a copy of your 45, Ed. It sounds the same as the one I have, although yours is a bit more worn, and it's much harder to hear the difference. |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 8:54pm
| So what was the final analysis on this?! LOL. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:46pm
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One thing to consider in all of this is the tapes used for the mastering, and the mastering job itself. Things like that will have a major impact on how something sounds. A narrower soundstage will cause the vocals and other elements to sound louder. I can tell you that the vocals sound very recessed on the SACD version of "Ghost In The Machine". But, I happen to like it that way. :) ------------- |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:56pm
| After listening to Aaron's 45 mix, I concur that the 45 is different than the LP. The vocals on the 45 are more prevalent vs. the Message In A Box version I have. The vocals on the box set are definitely more drowned out by the music. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 1:06pm
| A while back, I received a mint 45 dub from Aaron of "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic" and the vocals do sound more prominent in the mix than on any CD I've heard. I can remember the very first time I heard the song on CD many years ago and I was immediately struck by how buried the vocals sounded. The mix overall just didn't sound right to me! |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 03 September 2008 at 11:34pm
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The actual commercial 45 running time is (4:02), the listed time is "3:58" on the record label. (A&M 2371-S)
Pat: Although this song has the printed vs. actual run time differences of :03 or more, the information has not be indicated on the data base. My report is the same as the jimct's info. |
Posted By: RichM921
Date Posted: 20 October 2008 at 5:48pm
| I was just listening to XM's rebroadcast of "American Top 40" from 10/24/81. Casey played this song and I could immediately tell that it wasn't the version that I've been used to hearing. Then I recalled this old thread. I definately understand what aaronk means about the "delay on the vocals." That was the first thing that jumped out at me. Has this mix been found on a CD? |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 20 October 2008 at 11:09pm
| Not that I know of, unfortunately. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 7:24pm
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Could it be that the cutting master for the 45 just had more VU level or compression, thus making those instruments stand out a tad more?
One other thoery; since 45s are made of polystyrene plastic as opposed to true vinylite plastic, and are thinner, the stylus height angle is lower, thus effectively increasing tracking force very slightly. When using an eliptical stylus tip that is fitted on most moving-magnet cartridges to track these records, you can get an increase of 1.5 to 2 dB in the 2-3 KHz range where your ears are most sensitive. Although this is simply tracking error, it can cause the upper-midrange to sound more "present" - just a thought. Cheers, Jody Thornton ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Burlington, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 7:44pm
| Nope, it's definitely a different mix. I'll let you take a listen for yourself and report back. |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 9:59pm
| The vocals are mixed very softly in the LP mix and very loudly in the 45 mix, and this difference (and others) is not a case of the stylus tracking force being increased ever so slightly on 45s due to the stylus height angle being lower. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 11:18pm
I have indeed listened and concur with Aaron's findings. I'll admit on my turntable I have only listened to the Ghosts in the Machine LP track, so that is my reference for comparison here. I think that the vocal track was compressed heavier on the 45, so that the reverb stands out more. If I set a compressor's release knob to something very quick like 50ms, it will push up the level of the end or trail of the sound. This is best demonstrated with a snare hit. You normally hit the drum, here a transient bang, and then the sound quickly trails off - but through heavy compression where the threshold is set low (say -30 dB) and the release time is quick, the drum will hit, and as the sound trails off, the level will quickly rise, giving a fake echoey sound to the drum. I hear the reverb on the LP version, and I find the "average" level of Sting's voice is the same. But if you compress his voice track, and remix it in at the same average level, it will appear more echoey and "louder". I find the music tracks seem to be mixed down similarly on both. Funny I never noticed before, but on AM or on CHR formats in 1981, the last times I could be certain I was listening to a 7" promo, I would not likely notice this, given that radio was very compressed in the day. So even if I picked up on the difference, I would likely have mistaken it for station processing. Cheers, Jody Thornton (Hamilton, Ontario) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Burlington, Ontario) |
aaronk wrote:Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 11:26pm
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On the subject of the Police;
I had asked if anyone has a copy of the "Don't Stand" promo. Apparently, it fades up while the percussion starts from what I gather here. If someone could send me even a crappy MP3 (I don't need high fidelity here) showing me the promo here, I would appreciate it. I have never heard it to my knowledge. When TM Century Stereo Rock automation was aired on Rock 102 (WBEN-FM) in Buffalo, NY, they aired what I believe is a custom edit. The last part of the solo keyboard fades up, and the percussion starts. During the instrumental break before the final chorus, it is reduced from four runs to three runs. I will send a mock up I have made of this edit to Aaron, so he can hear it and maybe describe it better. It is exactly how Stereo Rock aired it, and I wondered if it was how the promo went. Cheers, Jody Thornton (Hamilton, Ontario) ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Burlington, Ontario) |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 25 October 2008 at 12:49am
| It appears the Stereo Rock must have been a custom edit, because the promo 45 does not contain any edits. It only has a slow fade up at the beginning, leaving only 14 seconds of intro time. |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 25 October 2008 at 7:35am
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My lord! (I have just listened to a sample of the "Don't Stand" intro, as it appeared on the promo version - thank you, Aaron).
I'll say it again, "My Lord!, How in heck's name were announcers expected to cue this one up?" .. lol! Worse yet, I could imagine someone in production carting up this version up, and the announcer thinking always that the last person didn't let the cart fast-forward to the beginning. It's silent!!! I actually like my mock up better. That makes two songs that this has happened to. Funny no one played that version in this market .... you think? ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Burlington, Ontario) |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 30 June 2009 at 9:37am
| "Now That's What I Call '80s 2", which was released today, contains "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic". If anyone gets this or can determine if the single mix was used, please let us know. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 30 June 2009 at 1:50pm
The download on Amazon says it runs 4:20, so it must not be. |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 11:53am
Wow, you mean it really took 'em 15 months since the release of volume one to come up w/ THAT track list?!? (*yawn*) Interesting how the first four years of the decade (1980-83 - i.e., the pre-CD era) are represented by only THREE songs ("Every Little Thing...", "Don't You Want Me", "Separate Ways") on this new 19-track volume. Twelve of them were #1 or #2 hits in "Billboard", and only ONE peaked outside the top 20 ("Rebel Yell")! Hopefully future volumes will be even just a bit more inspired... _________________________________________________________ Must-play '80s song of the day (chart hit, but not necessarily top 40 - and if you don't already have it, track it down, lol): "I been lonely so long/ Don't know why/ Comes to lovin' you/ Just get by Sometimes love/ Is a real good thing, but.../ Tell me, girl/ Where you been?" (clues: 1984; male vocals) Now, let's see THAT one turn up on a future "NOW '80s" volume! :-) |
Posted By: bwolfe
Date Posted: 04 July 2009 at 6:46am
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Music's last great decade has so many great "lost" 80's songs that still have not seen the light of day.
But mass appeal is the key to this series. At least this one doesn't include "Come On Eileen" or "Electric Avenue" again. ------------- the way it was heard on the radio |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 05 July 2009 at 8:23pm
Amen! So what better opportunity than this series - that clearly has a well-established BRAND NAME that goes back more than 25(!) years, and has more than proven itself here in the U.S. over the last 10 - to re-introduce some of those "lost" or "forgotten" gems??? That was the primary reason for my criticism above. (More on that in a minute...) IMHO, the song I quoted above is definitely one of those gems. And sadly, it has appeared on only one U.S. CD to date, which is now out-of-print - although thankfully, it does exist on several imports (one of which I have, along w/ the original parent album on a U.S. cassette). And while it missed the top 40, it DID make the top 100 in both "Billboard" and "Cash Box". No takers on this one??? :-( Surely SOMEBODY else on this elite & knowledgeable board must have this minor hit in their vast music collection (CD or otherwise) - and that song wasn't their only chart entry, either... :-)
Careful what you wish for - at this time, I'd say those are BOTH prime candidates for future volumes. (*sigh*) And let's not forget "She Blinded Me With Science" or (gag) "Love Shack"... :-(
True, but as I stated above, the "Now" series ALREADY HAS that! I still remember quite well when the series was first introduced in the U.K. back in late '83. The first volume went straight to #1, and was so popular, that it was even imported into chain stores here in the U.S. - at least in SoCal anyway, where I lived at the time (Licorice Pizza, The Wherehouse, Tower, etc.). And yes, all the way back then - circa early to mid '84 - I bought it on cassette just for the sprinkling of lower- and non-charting U.S. hits! (Note: That very first volume in the series was just re-issued in January on CD in the U.K. for the very first time, as a special collector's edition.) Volume 2 followed a mere four months later, also went straight to #1, and the brand was established! For the next several years, I remember tracking the series, week after week, volume after volume, in the U.K. album chart that was re-printed on the "Hits Of The World" page in "Billboard". By the time the '80s were over, they were up to "Now 16" (ALL but volume 4 hitting #1 - that one got to only #2), and I'd acquired about half of them on cassette, most second-hand. My only question at that time was: Why the heck haven't we Yanks followed suit stateside on this brilliant & successful series?!? Well, 15 years and 41 volumes into the series in the U.K. - not counting numerous additional special collections - the American record labels FINALLY took notice and got off their collective @$$es, releasing the first "Now" volume in the U.S. in late '98. (Of course, they didn't dare make the volumes TWO-disc sets, like they'd always been from day one in the U.K. - too risky!) SHOCKER: That first volume went top 10, and sold over a million! (*rolling eyes*) And even though I'd lost interest in most then-current music by '98, even I went so far as to buy that first American volume on cassette, just for the heck of it. As it stands, we're currently up to "Now 31", and ALL subsequent volumes have hit the top 5 and also sold over a million - most going even double- and triple-platinum! Even "Billboard" has published several articles over the last decade saying how well the series has done here, how surprised - and pleased - the labels have been, etc. (Amazon states that the series has now "collectively sold over 72 million copies in the U.S." since its 1998 introduction!) Apparently over their early jitters, the U.S. labels are now emulating the Brits in releasing specialty collections in the "Now" series as well, including "Now Country", "Now Classic Rock", "Now Power Ballads", and of course, "Now 80s", among others. The first volume of "Now 80s" was released on March 11, 2008, and debuted at a fairly impressive #11 in the March 29 issue of "Billboard". (I have my stack of back issues right here next to me as I write this.) In fact, here's its entire decent 15-week chart run in the top 200 (* = bullet): 11*-23-36-55-74-90-93-105-121-168-187-178-185-198-190. Again, thanks to the brand name, I have no doubt that volume 2 will debut in the top 20 of the July 18 issue, and enjoy a similar chart run, despite its underwhelming track listing... But here's the kicker (and the point of all this): For over a quarter-century, unlike the first two volumes in the U.S. "Now 80s" series, the U.K. editions of the regular "Now" series have NEVER had to rely on #1 or #2 chart hits to sell; lesser hits abound on them. And although they've been a bit more conservative, even the first 31 volumes in the regular U.S. "Now" series have always featured quite a few lower- and even non-charting songs! The same can certainly be done for the new "Now 80s" series, w/ no detrimental effect on sales. A total of 18-20 songs can fit on each volume; I'm not saying that more than half of them should be hits that missed the top 20, because yes, potential buyers need to be able to recognize the majority of the songs, but five or six per volume would be nice. :-) Right now, IMO, they're being WAY too cautious, throwing us one - maybe two - half-inspired tunes on each disc, at best. And they shouldn't be the same old lower-charting '80s hits that abound, either - e.g., "What I Like About You", "I Melt With You", "Tempted", etc. In other words, they could give us some forgotten & hard-to-find hits, too (like the one I quoted in my previous post), and guess what, I guarantee they'd STILL sell just as well! But hey, if they're gonna continue to go at least 15 months between volumes, well, then the series probably won't ever get past a half-dozen of them before the physical CD format dies out altogether anyway, resulting in yet another great missed opportunity... |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 29 December 2009 at 10:46am
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I just examined Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic promo 45 02371-A, Stock 45 02371-A P2, and reissue 45 08633-A C2.
These are all the 45 mix. There is a quick way to determine if you have the single remix. At 36 seconds into the song, as the first chorus starts, there is a single piano note in the left channel. If that piano note is accompanied by a delayed vocal in that channel, you have the single mix. If there is only the piano note and no delayed vocal, you have the usual long mix. The delayed vocal is off to one channel through much of the 45, while it's not heard on the CD versions. |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 29 January 2010 at 1:32pm
Does anyone own the CD single of "Every Breath You Take / Every Little Thing She Does is Magic" issued in 1996 by A&M under the "Digital Memories" series? I used to own the CD single by Extreme from that series which included the single version of "More Than Words". Just wondering if the single mix of "Every Little Thing She Does..." could have been included on there too.
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 29 January 2010 at 5:21pm
I own it -- it's the album version. |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 29 January 2010 at 8:27pm
| Thanks for the info Brian. Oh well, it was worth a shot!! |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 08 April 2010 at 10:32am
------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 April 2010 at 10:48am
| Google search says it's Billy Satellite "Satisfy Me." |
Posted By: Santi Paradoa
Date Posted: 08 April 2010 at 5:55pm
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Thanks Aaron. Just listened to the clip on iTunes. I've never heard the song prior. ------------- Santi Paradoa Miami, Florida |
Posted By: MMathews
Date Posted: 09 April 2010 at 11:08am
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Re: Billy Satellite
Hi, just wanted to also say thanks for the lost hit tip. I always tried to keep up with the up-and-coming stuff back then but i didn't remember this one at all. But i love adding anything i missed to the "library" just for the love of the era. Re: "Every Little Thing..." I had never known about that single mix till EdisonLite clued me in on it, and I was amazed how much beter that small difference in the vocals sounds, more up front, clearer. Now the frustration is that no one at Universal will ever pick up on that for any re-issues. That's a shame. Although, i never play the Police at home anymore (only occasional album cuts) because every radio format i ever hear (classic rock/modern rock/hot AC/Independent) still play their hits on a daily basis. (heard this one yesterday, again.) -MM |
Posted By: Indy500
Date Posted: 09 April 2010 at 2:41pm
| Anyone know which mix was used for the music video as that might be a digital source? |
Posted By: EdisonLite
Date Posted: 29 March 2014 at 12:37pm
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I received the "Ones on 1" CD from the UK in the mail a couple days ago. It's great that they used the single mix of "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic". This CD came out in 1988 and is on the BBC label. A lot of people have theorized that Sting is not allowing this single mix (which simply makes his voice much more prominent) to be used for any CDs, but I don't think that's the case (and I don't really think he prefers his voice being buried in the mix for CDs). Anyway, I really don't think the BBC label really asked for Sting's permission to use the single mix master tape for this CD. I think they just used whatever was supplied to them by Universal/A&M. So basically, I think it's just by fluke & chance that the single mix was ever put on CD. Just as the fact that the album mix is always used for everything else - because nobody really is paying attention (or even knew there were 2 mixes of this song.)
That's why I'm so glad to be working on 4 upcoming Sony CD releases. Two will be on Barry Manilow (if he approves) and when I listed "Ready to Take a Chance Again" (stereo version) on the track listing, Sony was very glad to see that this never-before-on-CD stereo version would finally make a Barry CD (although it was one one Japanese CD, and one US CD on a non-Sony label which released the Foul Play soundtrack.) The point being that no one at Sony had realized that the mono tape kept getting used over and over again for the Manilow CDs. But back to the UK "Ones on 1" double CD - definitely worth the price I paid on ebay. It was one penny. (Plus $3 postage to ship from the UK. This is one of those old double CD sets, which is an inch wide, so the postage itself to mail from the UK was probably more than I paid!) |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 29 March 2014 at 1:32pm
| Yeah, I was really surprised when I discovered that CD that it's not a rare item at all. Under our noses all this time. |