Paula Abdul "Straight Up" promo
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Topic: Paula Abdul "Straight Up" promo
Posted By: Brian W.
Subject: Paula Abdul "Straight Up" promo
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 12:21am
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Jim might be able to answer this one:
Was there a promo CD single for Paula Abdul's "Straight Up" that contained four different versions of the song? I saw one advertised ONCE in Goldmine many years ago and have not run across it since. An old import commercial CD single is very common for this title, however, it FADES all the remixes early to accomodate the 20-minute running time of a 3-inch CD! Though the title was also issued on a five-inch import, it retained the early-faded versions. |
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Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 4:51am
| Brian, we may have gotten a promo 12" vinyl on "Straight Up" with those versions, that I have somewhere deep in my "auxiliary storage dungeon", but we only got Virgin PRCD 2539 in as a Promo CD single, 1 track, (4:11). An old radio station chief engineer buddy of mine is also very deep into promo CD singles - he would go into NYC once a month to fill in gaps/discover remix promos. We talk often, and I will ask him about it and follow up with you. Our station didn't have a big rep for playing those longer remixes - pretty much "Straight Up" (pun intended) Top 40. So we may not have been sent one that DID exist in this case, although we still did get in plenty of remix promo CD singles. I kept a careful eye out for them. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 13 May 2006 at 1:24pm
| Thanks, Jim. |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 20 May 2006 at 5:52pm
| Brian: Getting back to you on this, as promised. Have touched base with my fellow promo-remixes-CD collector; he also has only the 1 track, (4:11) version on a promo CD single. There could still be a promo CD out there that's escaped the both of us, especially since you saw a Goldmine ad for a promo remix CD, but my friend is practically a "private-eye" in sniffing out the existence of these; he doesn't currently have one on his want list. And he would, if he saw what you saw - and he both bought and scoured through Goldmine EVERY week. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 20 May 2006 at 11:30pm
| It's possible I either misread the ad or the ad or the ad was inaccurate. Since I've never seen once since, maybe it doesn't exist. But I was sure that about 1994 I saw an ad in Goldmine for a four-mix promo CD for "Straight Up." |
Posted By: jimct
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 1:37am
| Brian: I currently see a promo 12" vinyl for "Straight Up" (Virgin 1262) available for 8 bucks, by reputable dealer Craig Moerer. This may be your best bet for right now, although I realize it's not a CD. This jives with my recollection of a 12" promo coming into our station for that back in '89. Did a little investigating; I believe that the very available import 5" clone of the Japanese 3" first appeared in mid-1993, and could possibly be a boot. A couple of CD single websites I know of, as well as a Virgin label all-format release discography, does not list a 2nd promo. Anything's always possible, though... |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 9:21am
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I have a US "Straight Up" 12 Inch. Here is the info in case it helps:
In generic Virgin sleeve, 0-96594, 33 1/3 RPM Side A: 12" Remix (6:52) Power Mix (4:57) Side B: House Mix (7:10) I can confirm the 12" Remix is available on CD on the Japanese "Cold Hearted" EP (VJD-5556) which I own, but can't help with the other two. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 9:28am
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Ok, I recalled there was a UK 3" CD so I googled for it, and for those interested, all the versions of the 12 inch and yet another mix can be found on the UK 3" CD, SRNCD111 : )
Straight Up (12" remix) Straight Up (Power mix) Straight Up (House Mix) Straight Up (Marley Marl Mix) |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 12:21pm
| Right, but as I said in the first post, most of the mixes on that CD are faded early -- WAY early -- to accomodate the 20-minute limit of a 3" CD. The Power Mix, which is supposed to run 4:57, only runs about three minutes -- it just fades out at that point. Though I think it does contain the full 12" Remix. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 12:45pm
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AHA! I knew I wasn't crazy. I'd been searching Ebay for cassette singles of Straight Up, and they all had the LP version of Cold Hearted as the B-side, just like the 45. But I was sure mine was backed with the Power Mix of Straight Up.
Finally: http://cgi.ebay.com/Paula-Abdul-Straight-Up-1988-single_W0QQ itemZ4805834327QQcategoryZ1600QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem So it seems there were two pressings of the cassette single: one backed with Cold Hearted, and one backed with the Power Mix. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 8:21pm
| Wow, what a disappointment to receive a CD and then the versions fading in early, I remember that happened to me with the Belinda Carlisle "Circle In The Sand" Beach Party Mix on the UK CD single, also on the Virgin label. Though to my knowledge there was no 3" CD released, guess they felt like fading the version out a little before, whatever. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 10:53pm
| Is "Circle in the Sand" one of those that has sort of a hazy film outside the area where the CD playing area is? I had the same case with Janet Jackson's Alright import, the one with the black and white cover. The extended versions faded early. My "Straight Up" is like that too -- it's a 5-inch, but it's really sort of like a three-inch on a five-inch disc. |
Posted By: cmmmbase
Date Posted: 21 May 2006 at 11:11pm
| sidenote to Brian's Post - there were also 2 different pressings of the 45 - one with the Power mix on the flipside, the other pressing with Cold Hearted (just like the cassette singles) |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 8:21am
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Brian, I am at work so can't double check the disc, but your description seems quite accurate from what I can recall. I do clearly remember the disc has the legend "Another Virgin CD Single" on the label side towards the outer edge of the disc. The "Heaven Is A Place On Earth " UK CD single is like that, too, except lettering on the CD is in blue rather than black. Does the "Straight Up" have that legend, too?
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 May 2006 at 5:24pm
Hmm, thanks. |
cmmmbase wrote:Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 5:59pm
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My edition of Pat's book indicates that DJ 45 copies ran 3:50, while commercial copies ran 4:11 and 4:57.
For what it's worth, my commercial 45 is - A: Straight Up - printed 4:11 B: Straight Up ("Powermix") - printed 4:57 It appears that the UK single ran 3:50 also, which is featured on two UK compilations: Now That's What I Call Music 14 (Virgin EMI PolyGram UK CD NOW 14, 1989) Now That's What I Call Music 1989 (Virgin EMI PolyGram UK 8 27077 2, 1993) The 3:50 version is just an early fade of the LP version, and can be recreated with a 24-beat fade from 3:33.0-3:48.0. (Times from CD Forever Your Girl.) |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 5:34pm
| Also for what it's worth, I have perfectly recreated the Power Mix using the early-faded version on my CD single as well as the 12" Remix on that same CD. |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 10:54am
both my commercial 45 and commercial cassingle are issued with the same catalog number virgin 99256 and both run the same length 4:10......the commercial 45 states a run time of 4:11 while the cassingle has no notation......my cassingle has the "power mix" as track 2...the commercial 45 was NOT originally issued with a picture sleeve...
 ------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 2:18pm
| Unmentioned so far is the 7" promo which is shown as an edit and is listed as running 3:50. The intro is shortened, maybe a slightly earlier fade. Scans available on request. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 5:19pm
| Paula looks quite innocent in that pic...way before the "Idol" bizarre behavior. :) |
Posted By: 80smusicfreak
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 6:31am
Actually, it does say "(4:11)" on the cassette shell, ed... :-) |
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 9:29am
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balls!!!....it does....thanks for the heads up..
------------- edtop40 |
Posted By: abagon
Date Posted: 03 November 2008 at 12:10am
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I have 2 commercial 45 copies of the "PAULA ABDUL - Straight Up". One has the "Cold Hearted" on the other side, another has the "Straight Up-POWERMIX". Both 45s run (4:07), and have the same catalogue number (Virgin 7-99256 & The listed time "4:11".) Both record labels are the same as the scan by edtop40. Also I have the parent LP "Forever Your Girl" U.S. releases (Virgin 7 90943-1). "Straight Up" on the LP has (4:09) of the actual running time with the listed time "4:11" on the record label. Both the 45s are faded out :02 earlier than the LP.
--abagon |
Posted By: MCT1
Date Posted: 04 November 2008 at 11:28am
IIRC, this single was kind of rush-released, after "Straight Up" had begun to receive attention from some segment of the market, even in the absence of a commercially released single. This probably explains why "Straight Up" didn't have a picture sleeve in its 45 form. Given the time constraints, they threw together artwork for the by then commerically more important cassette single format, but not the 45. Virgin's U.S. distributor, Atlantic/Warner Music, was definitely still making picture sleeves at the time. They would continue to do so until very late in 1989, even releasing a few scattered sleeves after that into 1990. I think every other single from Forever Your Girl came as a 45 with a picture sleeve. This includes those that weren't released until later than "Straight Up", as illustrated by Ed's other posts. At the time "Straight Up" was released, the album hadn't really broken big yet. The first single, "Knocked Out", had stalled just short of the Top 40, and the second, the recently-released "The Way That You Love Me" was down in the lower reaches of the Hot 100. Seeing an opportunity, Virgin quickly dropped "The Way That You Love Me" and issued "Straight Up" instead. The former song was of course reissued later, and would become a big hit in the end. |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 9:56am
| Not all of the other Forever Your Girl singles came with picture sleeves. I believe "Knocked Out" (b/w Instrumental) came in a generic Virgin sleeve design with a logo sticker affixed to the front. |
Posted By: torcan
Date Posted: 05 November 2008 at 2:38pm
| I have a US "Knocked Out" picture sleeve. |
Posted By: Underground Dub
Date Posted: 06 November 2008 at 3:16am
| Weird, my commercial "Knocked Out" 45 is as described above. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 01 July 2009 at 9:35am
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The database currently states the following for Paula Abdul's "Straight Up":
(dj copies of this 45 ran (3:50); commercial copies of this 45 run (4:10) and (4:57); the cassette single runs (4:10)) It should probably be clarified in the database that the 4:57 version is also known as the "Power Mix". However, to my knowledge, the "Power Mix" only appeared as the B-side on some commercial 45 and cassette single pressings. I don't believe there are any commercial single pressings where the "Power Mix" is the featured track. Also, I notice a 6:54 version of "Straight Up" has surfaced on Abdul's Shut Up and Dance (The Remixes) CD (Virgin 91362 and 86163) and naturally contains a "remixed" comment. Can anyone confirm if this version is the same as the "12" Remix" featured on the commercial 12" single, which lists a printed run time of 6:52? If so, then it might be more accurate to have a "12" Version" or "12" Remix" comment listed next to the Shut Up and Dance disc. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 03 July 2009 at 12:57pm
| Todd, the version on the "Shut Up and Dance" CD is not the original 12" Remix. It's called Ultimix (they are still around, an officially licensed remix services company). I can check the actual runtime of the 12" vinyl version when I get home if you need it. |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 07 July 2009 at 2:30pm
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Thanks, elcoleccionista. I'm not particularly concerned here about the 12" vinyl run time... I was just curious to know if it was the same as the remix appearing on the Shut up and Dance disc, which you've confirmed it is not.
By the way, does anyone recall hearing (or playing) the "Power Mix" of "Straight Up"? And has the "Power Mix" ever appeared on any CD in its entirety? (I know Brian mentioned he was at least able to re-create it by splicing two of the tracks on the import 3" CD single together.) |
Posted By: prisdeej
Date Posted: 01 March 2019 at 3:35pm
Just confirming for anyone who may know? Is the 3:50 dj edit an early fade of the LP version or is the intro shortened as Hykker mentioned? ------------- DJ L. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 01 March 2019 at 4:18pm
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My copy is from Greatest Hits and runs 3:48. Ron is
usually pretty good at determining whether a song is an edit or an early fade. I'd go with the DJ edit being an early fade. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 01 March 2019 at 4:22pm
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I stand corrected. Hykker is right. The 4:11 version has
Paula's vocal coming in at :20 in. The DJ edit has her vocal starting at :10 in. Guess the DJ edit will need to be looked at more closely. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 01 March 2019 at 4:30pm
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And just to clarify further, the 3:50 version that Ron referred to earlier is
the UK copy found on the Now V/A comps. Based on this info, there appears to be two different 3:50 versions: the US promo edit and the UK early fade. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: prisdeej
Date Posted: 01 March 2019 at 4:52pm
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Thank you gentleman! I can sleep tonight. ------------- DJ L. |
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 12 March 2019 at 11:22am
Interesting that this 3:50 edit which was released on 7" promo vinyl wasn't used for the promo CD (by the way, it was used for the video as well and can be easily recreated using the album version). Anybody remember hearing one over the other on the radio? |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 13 March 2019 at 4:53pm
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I only ever heard this edit on the video. I knew that there was a promo edit, but never heard it on-air.
------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 22 March 2025 at 10:48pm
| Regarding Paula Abdul's "Straight Up", the database does not currently account for the 1-track promo CD single release on Virgin PRCD2539 that Jim reported earlier in this message thread. I don't have a copy of it myself; however, my notes indicate that the track's actual run time is 4:10 (the CD label states a time of 4:11 with no version description listed) and is identical to both the single and album version. It's been years since I wrote down this info and can't recall offhand how I confirmed it (presumably from another forum member or an audio rip that had been uploaded on YouTube at one time?). Thus, if anyone can corroborate the promo CD single's run time for "Straight Up", please let us know so that we can incorporate this into the song's title notes. |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 23 March 2025 at 8:27am
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The printed time of the promo CD is 4:11, but the actual time is 4:10.
Database updated. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 23 March 2025 at 9:23pm
| Thanks, Aaron! |