Tiffany "Couldve Been"
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Topic: Tiffany "Couldve Been"
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Subject: Tiffany "Couldve Been"
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 9:40am
I was wondering if the 45 version of this single was different at all from the "Tiffany" album version.
I have a German CD single and what is listed as 7" version is the same version found on the album.
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 10:16am
Yes, the USA 45 is remixed.
Better sounding reverb & less echo effect on Tiffany's lead vocals.
Andy
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Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 10:34am
Thanks Andrew, I thought I had heard a version on the radio that ommitted that "bass" sound when she sings the first line, just like the extended version does. Do you know if this version is available on CD?
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 11:05am
Good information Andrew - I have already updated the database for those that want to know which cd's have the US 45 version.
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 12:59pm
I'm not sure if the single mix is on CD; if anyone finds out, please report.
Although I rarely get a request for the song when I DJ private events, I carry a dub from the 'donut' on my hard drive (simply because I hate the way the first verse is mixed on the LP version).
Andy
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 14 May 2006 at 7:43pm
Yes, Pat has updated the database to "45 version" for several CDs. One is Tiffany's "Greatest Hits."
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 7:09am
Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 15 May 2006 at 9:39am
Posted By: edtop40
Date Posted: 19 February 2009 at 12:21pm
my commercial 45 issued as mca 53231 states a run time on the label as 3:31 but actually runs 3:32....the 45 also states "original version appears on the tiffany album mca-5793"...the back of the picture sleeve states "produced by george e tobin, arranged by john duarte, remix engineer bill smith".....the vinyl 45 is identical to the cd version listed below
(S) (3:32) Hip-O 40018 Greatest Hits (45 version)
------------- edtop40
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Posted By: elcoleccionista
Date Posted: 30 May 2010 at 6:42pm
Brian W. wrote:
Yes, Pat has updated the database to "45 version" for several CDs. One is Tiffany's "Greatest Hits." |
I was just listening to "Greatest Hits" (Hip-O Records HIPD-40018) and it features the album version.
If this is the release the database refers to, either there are pressings with both versions or the entry is incorrect.
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Posted By: Pat Downey
Date Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:43pm
Just confirmed that my copy of "Greatest Hits" Hip-O 40018 does include the 45 version of "Could've Been". Matrix number is A60919Bb 96090100.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 19 November 2010 at 5:52pm
Easy way to tell which version you have:
At 11 seconds in, if you hear a monstrous echo on the line "just about to die", that's the LP mix. I have it on two Time-Life compilations, and two Canadian compilations from 1988
If "just about to die" is crystal clear, that's the 45 mix. It's on the promo-only 4-CD set MCA Hits Sampler from 1988, which is no surprise.
Surprisingly, it's also on the EMI compilation Retro Lunchbox: Gooey Love Songs (1997), which has a little compression/limiting on the loud portions in the last half of the song. This CD should be pretty cheap nowadays.
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Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 17 February 2019 at 11:57am
Just heard the song on Casey's top 40....it was #1 btw and Casey played the
LP mix. It had so much echo in it. Casey usually played the 45 version of the
songs.
I have two 45 mix versions of it. One is on
the greatest hits and the other on Pure 80's Love: The #1 Hits. I also have the
LP mix on her Tiffany CD.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 17 February 2019 at 9:49pm
Ron S wrote:
Just heard the song on Casey's top 40....it was #1 btw and Casey played the
LP mix. It had so much echo in it. Casey usually played the 45 version of the
songs.
I have two 45 mix versions of it. One is on
the greatest hits and the other on Pure 80's Love: The #1 Hits. I also have the
LP mix on her Tiffany CD. |
Casey died a few years back. My guess is you are referring to a pre-recorded youtube video, but you did not specify share or elaborate what you meant. Ron, you can always share a link to the countdown. Also I would suggest you subscribe to Pat's database if you want to know where specific LP or 45 versions are on CD rather then posting where on CD we can find the track. I believe in paying the fee each year so Pat can keep this board and community thriving. Thanks!
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Posted By: Ron S
Date Posted: 19 February 2019 at 9:29am
PopArchivist wrote:
Ron S wrote:
Just heard the song on Casey's
top 40....it was #1 btw and Casey played the
LP mix. It had so much echo in it. Casey usually played the 45 version of the
songs.
I have two 45 mix versions of it. One is on
the greatest hits and the other on Pure 80's Love: The #1 Hits. I also have
the
LP mix on her Tiffany CD. |
Casey died a few years back. My guess is you are referring to a pre-
recorded youtube video, but you did not specify share or elaborate what
you meant. Ron, you can always share a link to the countdown. Also I would
suggest you subscribe to Pat's database if you want to know where specific
LP or 45 versions are on CD rather then posting where on CD we can find
the track. I believe in paying the fee each year so Pat can keep this board
and community thriving. Thanks! |
Our radio station had the countdown thus why there was no link to my post.
I am sorry that my posts about finding a song on a particular CD is
bothering you. And btw I am a paying member and fairly new to the board
and trying to figure things out.
Thanks!
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 19 February 2019 at 11:42am
Ron S wrote:
And btw I am a paying member and fairly new to the board and trying to figure things out. |
Not to worry, Ron. When I discover something noteworthy, I always post it here on the forum. Sometimes it's mastering info, other times it's just verifying firsthand that a particular CD has some characteristic. The info benefits everybody, and Pat will make sure that the relevant details find their way into the database.
It's great that you support the forum (I do, too), but I see that as a separate issue from posting info for everyone's benefit.
Keep on posting!
------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past .
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 19 February 2019 at 12:10pm
I echo what Ron (crapfromthepast) says. Keep on posting!
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Posted By: Michaeldila
Date Posted: 19 February 2019 at 1:45pm
Ron, welcome! When i first joined it was a little chilly here with some
people but the truth is everyone is really very nice and very helpful.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 19 February 2019 at 2:51pm
Michaeldila wrote:
...the truth is everyone is really very nice and very helpful. |
That really is true. This is probably the most polite and constructive group of music nerds on the entire internet. (I've heard that BSN folks are just as nice, but I rarely post there.)
------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past .
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Posted By: Michaeldila
Date Posted: 20 February 2019 at 2:24pm
crapfromthepast wrote:
Michaeldila wrote:
...the truth is
everyone is really very nice and very helpful. |
That really is true. This is probably the most polite and constructive
group of music nerds on the entire internet. (I've heard that BSN folks
are just as nice, but I rarely post there.) |
that's absolutely correct, ron. the BSN group are awesome too. i think
we all realize that we share a kind of obsessive-ness lol. i doubt the
*average* person would even know what we are talking about
sometimes....!
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 20 February 2019 at 2:48pm
Ron S wrote:
I am sorry that my posts about finding a song on a
particular CD is
bothering you. And btw I am a paying member and fairly
new to the board
and trying to figure things out.
Thanks! |
Ron, it's great to have you on board. Had it not been
for my discovery of this forum in 2007 through an
article posted about '45 versions' and 'DJ edits' I'd
still have all LP versions for songs prior to 1994!
------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 20 February 2019 at 3:33pm
Ron S wrote:
Just heard the song on Casey's top
40....it was #1 btw and Casey played the
LP mix. It had so much echo in it. Casey usually
played the 45 version of the songs. |
I never noticed a lot of consistency on what got
played on AT40. Usually it was the 45 version, and
often the radio edit, but occasionally I'd hear album
versions too.
I believe that at least some of the retro AT40 shows
being used today have been remastered, which could
mean a different version/mix of a song than what Casey
played back in the day.
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 21 February 2019 at 2:00pm
Hykker - I talked to Shannon Lynn (he remastered the '70s-'80s AT40 shows) a while back, and I think he tried to use the proper edits/versions when he could. I've heard some song abbreviations (especially in the year-end shows) that were undoubtedly AT40 in-house edits, and it sounds like Shannon preserved or re-created those edits whenever he could.
But I don't know how deep his knowledge base was. For example, I was in radio in the late '80s, and I didn't realize that "Could've Been" had a dedicated 45 mix until I found it here on the forum. If I didn't know about it, I can't imagine that he would have realized it, either.
------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past .
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 21 February 2019 at 10:28pm
Ron S wrote:
Our radio station had the countdown thus why there was no link to my post. |
You were vague in your original post, which is why I thought you were possibly referring to an online video such as youtube. I am a huge Casey fan and was not aware that any radio even played his old countdowns.
Ron S wrote:
I am sorry that my posts about finding a song on a particular CD is
bothering you. |
I have no idea where you got that impression Ron S, you are not a bother. Rather I think it is more that the board is searchable and sometimes topics have already been discussed that do answer your questions. Pat's database will point you in the right direction of the location of the 45 version if it is available on CD.
Ron S wrote:
And btw I am a paying member and fairly new to the board and trying to figure things out. |
I will contact you via your email to assist you. We are all very friendly here and I in no way meant to give you any impression that I am not here to help.
If there is anything I can answer for you after you get my email please don't be afraid to ask. We all love music and we are all here for the same thing.
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Posted By: MCT1
Date Posted: 27 February 2019 at 8:23pm
Rebroadcasts of old episodes of American Top 40 have been distributed for a number of years. There are two series, one with episodes from the '70s, one from the '80s. A couple of weeks ago, the featured episode from the '80s series was from February 13, 1988. That's probably what Ron S. heard on the radio.
Agreed with the comments above, that 1) the people who remaster these shows are sensitive to songs having differing versions, and try to match what was in the original broadcasts, but that 2) they aren't perfect in that regard, and in a case like this, where the differences between the two versions are relatively subtle and probably not very well-known, who knows if they even realized that there is a difference. Ideally, of course, they'd be hanging around on this discussion board....
Earlier this evening, I was listening to a recording I have of the show from January 30, 1988, two weeks before the episode that Ron S. heard. (My recording is from the 21st century rebroadcast series, not the original broadcast from 1988.) I popped in here because I had a question about the #1 song, "Need You Tonight" by INXS, and was surprised to see a thread on the front page about the #2 song, which was "Could've Been".
I went back and listened to "Could've Been" again, and it is the album version. The "monstrous echo" referenced upthread on the line "just about to die" is definitely present. As with the episode Ron S. heard, it's conceivably possible that this isn't what was played on the original broadcast.
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Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 06 April 2020 at 4:29am
MCT1 wrote:
I went back and listened to "Could've Been" again, and it is the album version. The "monstrous echo" referenced upthread on the line "just about to die" is definitely present. As with the episode Ron S. heard, it's conceivably possible that this isn't what was played on the original broadcast. |
That's possible for sure, but I wouldn't put it past Casey to have played an album version on the show. In fact, I seem to remember about a month after he left and Shadoe Stevens stepped in, the album version of "Monkey" by George Michael was played during the last two weeks it was in the Top 40. I remember thinking that was odd because I believe up until then, they had only played the Single Version, and AT40 was the only place I heard the Single Version on the radio. My local Top 40 only played the Album Version.
------------- Dan In Philly
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