Supremes - Baby Love
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Topic: Supremes - Baby Love
Posted By: crapfromthepast
Subject: Supremes - Baby Love
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 3:22pm
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Mono version (2:35)
In 1964, the hit was the 45 version, and the 45 was mono. (That's true of pretty much every hit in 1964.) The mono version first appeared on CD on Motown's 4-CD Hitsville USA Vol. 1 (1992), which in my opinion is one of the very best compilations ever released. Stellar track selection, and stellar sound (or as good as these early Motown dashboard-blasters will ever sound). There's a digitally identical clone on Motown's 2-CD Supremes Anthology (1995, not the 1986 collection that's also titled Anthology). I have the mono version on a few other discs:
Stereo I found four different stereo mixes for "Baby Love". (I edited this initial post to include info from downstream.) Stereo 1964 Where Did Our Love Go LP mix (2:35) In this mix, in the song intro, the handclaps start in the left channel and migrate to the right channel during the first 12 beats of the song. It sounds pretty cool in headphones. The rest of the mix has some harsh panning, typical of 1964 stereo mixes. This mix first appeared on CD on a Motown Supremes collection called Compact Command Performances 20 Greatest Hits (1983), as part of Motown's first-ever CD releases. The same analog transfer is used on:
Stereo 1967 Greatest Hits LP mix (2:35-ish) In this mix, the handclaps stay in the left channel throughout the intro. The rest of the mix also has some harsh panning. I have four discs with the 1967 mix:
Stereo 1975 Cooley High soundtrack LP mix (2:41) This mix has a lot of elements closer to the center of the soundstage, which is a reasonable thing to do. This mix also runs about 6 seconds longer than the older mixes, with a significantly more gentle fade than the older mixes. This mix is fairly dry, and the portion after the intro sounds very pronounced and intimate, due to the lack of reverb. The soundtrack was released on CD in 2000; I'm not sure if the version released on the CD matches what was on vinyl in 1975. The 1975 mix, with added reverb, first appeared on CD on Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1964 (1989). The same analog transfer is used on:
Stereo 2003 The No. 1's album mix (2:47) Suha Gur remixed all the Supremes tracks on The No. 1's (but not the Diana Ross solo tracks). It's very good. Thanks to all downstream who contributed a lot of the info in this edited initial post. ------------- There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one http://www.crapfromthepast.com" rel="nofollow - Crap From The Past . |
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Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 3:47pm
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I think Mix 1 is the original "Where Did Our Love Go"
stereo LP mix. Mix 2 was released on the original vinyl 1967 "Greatest Hits" album. It's my understanding that all the tracks on "Greatest Hits" were remixed specifically for that album. There's a fourth mix, on "Supremes No. 1s." All the Supremes songs on that CD were remixed by Suha Gur. |
Posted By: C J Brown
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 5:21pm
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Thanks for the Mix 4 add on info to Brian W
How does this board feel about Suha Gur's work on the Supremes No 1s ? One time I play I think that disc is superb. The next time I play it maybe I do not like it as much. Mixed feelings about the remixes? The Suha Gur remix of Beachwood 4 5789 may be my favorite stereo Motown remix of all time. |
Posted By: Brian W.
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 5:39pm
I like them a lot. They sound closer to the mono to me. |
C J Brown wrote:Posted By: LunarLaugh
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 7:40pm
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Many stereo mix variations exist in the vaults for
nearly every Motown hit from the mid to late 1960s, particularly when it comes to The Supremes. Not to be confused with later day remixes, these mixes are vintage alternates that may contain variables in where things are placed left, right or center as well as reverb or backing vocals. Some compilation producers will pull an alternate mix instead of one that was previously issued because the fidelity is slightly better and the differences are minimal enough that they won't stick out like a sore thumb. This happened a few times on Motown's Sound of Young America Year by Year series and I think Rhino may have snuck some alternates out on their Top R&B Hits collections as well. ------------- https://thelunarlaugh.bandcamp.com/ - Listen to The Lunar Laugh! |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 8:52pm
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Ron, your mix #3 description sounds like the 1975 remix from the Cooley High soundtrack vinyl LP (which runs 2:40 on my copy.) The fat bass really jumps out, and the mix is dry as the Sahara, which is very obvious with the snare drum hit near the end of the intro, just before Diana comes in with "Oooo..."
The Four Tops' "Reach Out (I'll Be There)" takes a similar remix approach on the Cooley High LP: bone dry and prominent bass. It's my preferred stereo mix of the song. The mix on the 1973 vinyl 3-LP Diana Ross & The Supremes' Anthology sounds like mix #2. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 22 January 2021 at 10:27pm
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Ron, I like the sound on Supremes Gold for this song for stereo. Is that mix 1, 2 or 3? ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 23 January 2021 at 5:53pm
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The double disc Supremes Gold should have mix #1 as that
set is a compilation of the three greatest hits albums. |