Songs that are typically cued for radio
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Topic: Songs that are typically cued for radio
Posted By: 995wlol
Subject: Songs that are typically cued for radio
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 2:22pm
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I'm referring to songs that had intros removed for radio NOT because the promo single edited them out, but because radio stations typically decided to cue past the intro, whether it was spoken, musical, or some other sound effect.
A few examples that come to mind for me: Madonna - Like A Prayer (I have never, not once, ever heard the opening guitar riff played--not during the initial chart run or as an oldie, regardless of the station or format) Smashing Pumpkins - 1979 (only heard the quiet "beat box" intro before the guitar kicks in around 0:08 one time--probably because the DJ forgot to cue the CD) Primitive Radio Gods - Standing Outside A Broken Phonebooth With Money In My Hand (cued past the sound effects, which are even included on the radio edit version) Sade - The Sweetest Taboo (cued past the rain FX) Glenn Frey - The Heat Is On (during its initial run, I remember it being cued to the initial "woosh" around 0:13) Ta Mara & The Seen - Everybody Dance (cued past "jungle sounds") El DeBarge - Who's Johnny (cued past soft percussion to "woosh" sound around 0:15) Pet Shop Boys - Opportunities (cued past soft percussion to piano at ~0:12) Van Halen - Why Can't This Be Love (for the first couple of decades of this song's life, I only heard the full version, but in recent years radio seems to cue it up to the synths at 0:11) Europe - The Final Countdown (stations that play the LP version tend to cue to the ubiquitous synth riff at 0:13) ABC - When Smokey Sings (don't think I've ever heard anyone play the count-off at the beginning) Bon Jovi - I'll Be There For You (cued to ~0:07) Living Colour - Cult Of Personality (this one is split--rock radio played the full intro while Top 40 cued to the guitar riff at 0:10) Fresh Prince - Summertime (cued past the "drums please" and record scratching, though I can't remember exactly whether KDWB cued to the first drum hit or the base around 0:05) Shanice - I Love Your Smile (cued to bass at 0:10) |
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Posted By: AutumnAarilyn
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 4:16pm
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George Michael "Faith" edited out that organ.
My local station now plays "Don't stop til you get enough" by MJ with the vocal part edited out and begins on the wail. Even Michael edited out the vocal intro on "I just can't stop loving you". We should do a counter-thread where a countdown is never edited off like Billy Joel's "A matter of trust" or Willie Nelson's "On the road again". |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 4:24pm
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Was the spoken intro to Prince 1999 also on the 45 version?
I frequently remember this part never being played on the radio. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 4:41pm
It was already edited out of the 45 so radio didn't have to cue past it. |
AdvprosD wrote:Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 5:40pm
I know there was a second version with a long fade in, but I don't recall hearing that on the radio at all. I'm pretty sure the stations I heard the song on cued past the fade in and started with the flourish-type sound after it. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: chendagam
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 5:41pm
This YouTube post has always baffled me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgQHo4xLJWs I own this promo but my copy has the entire "drums please" in tact whereas this YouTube post does not. So I have always been curious if some promos were pressed with the intro cut off. Promo on discogs: https://www.discogs.com/release/1429893-DJ-Jazzy-Jeff- The-Fresh-Prince-Summertime |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 6:31pm
I suspect the poster just edited out the first few seconds. I have that promo, too (and at one time had a second copy) and both began with "drums please". |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 7:16pm
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I've only heard the song with the "drums please" intro, officially. I have two different promos and a retail single, and all have the full intro. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 08 May 2022 at 7:19pm
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We often cued past the acapella intro of "Shy Guy" by Diana King. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: Jody Thornton
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 3:04am
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On the remix of Alias' Waiting For Love, I used to cue past the opening keyboard and start the song on the three synthesized snare hits. Off of a jingle that worked well.
Crazy by Seal. I used to cue past the opening soft portion and what sounded like soft improvisation on Seal's part. Then I started with the climactic "Dum" about eight seconds in. Many AC station started Your Song by Elton John on the first piano strike, removing the first few seconds of soft keyboard. Londonbeat's I've Ben Thinking About You - often removed the first three drum hits and started off the downbeat, though there may have been a promo created this way. ------------- Cheers, Jody Thornton (Richmond Hill, Ontario) |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 4:44am
Which is how the short side of the promo 45 was issued. The long side had the vocal intact, as did a later reservice of the short version. Any station I worked at from 1974 on either played music from carts or a digital playout, so these decisions were made my the PD/MD, not the jocks. "Freeze Frame" - J. Geils (cued past "freeze frame" and camera sfx) "Higher And Higher" - Rita Coolidge (cold intro removed, cued to bass notes) "I Don't Wanna Wait" - Paula Cole (same idea as Rita) "Killer Queen" - Queen (finger snaps bypassed) "The Way" - Fastball (cued past sfx) I'm sure there were more, but that's all I can think of off-hand. Most of these were done to make things flow better, or to bypass something that would be barely audible on-air. Likewise, fade-in intros were often tightened. At the other end of things, we faded the Cranberries' "Dreams" early (before the yodeling). |
Posted By: thecdguy
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 6:46am
I think I also remember hearing The Bangles "Hazy Shade Of Winter" that way on one of the stations in my area. Most of the long fade-in was cut off, and it started a few seconds before the guitar came in. From what I understand, some stations just cued past the fade in completely and had it start with guitar. ------------- Dan In Philly |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 7:51am
I was always surprised that there was no cd promo edit for Faith put out that deletes the organ. After all what radio station wanted to play 40 seconds of organ before a song? I remember getting the album in 1988 to listen to and going like "what's this organ at the beginning?, where is the version I heard on the radio?" ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 8:44am
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TM Century issued "Faith" on a GoldDisc without the intro. ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 8:45am
Yes, but the studio itself never issued an "official" promo for it to the masses. I don't think TM Century was available for purchase by consumers, that is what I meant. Sorry I did not clarify. ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 11:01am
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Correct. I've also never seen any promo CD at all for "Faith" (only 45s), although two of the other singles from the album were sent out on promo CDs (Monkey & Kissing A Fool). ------------- Aaron Kannowski http://www.uptownsound.com" rel="nofollow - Uptown Sound http://www.919thepeak.com" rel="nofollow - 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 11:11am
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Was the flapamba intro included on the 45 version of Ricky Don't Lose That Number? I highly suspect it wasn't.
I might have to listen to the "Citizen" collection to be sure it was there as well, and not only on the album version. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 1:09pm
When the song was a current, I did the same thing when I played it at my weddings and events. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 1:11pm
As you know, listed in their database as Faith [Intro Edit] ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 1:13pm
Here's the 45 version being played from a promo 45. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFAW1mCltso ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 4:36pm
Yes, I forgot about Crazy, but that's about how I remember hearing it during its original chart run. |
Posted By: 995wlol
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 4:39pm
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Does any one remember how radio treated Kim Carnes "Crazy
In The Night" when it was on the charts? I would think stations would have cued past the knocking and "who is it?" right to the synths. |
Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 7:58pm
So that's a definite yes and no. Ha! I should have specified the solo flapamba. Thanks for the link. ------------- <Dave> Someone please tell I-Heart Radio that St. Louis is not known as The Loo! |
Posted By: VWestlife
Date Posted: 09 May 2022 at 10:22pm
There is an official radio edit that omits the radio tuning sound effects during the intro. And many stations cut off the acapella intro from Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love You", in addition to the shortened ending of the official radio edit. When they were told to play it that way, some DJs joked "We now join Whitney Houston, already in progress". And a more recent example -- on Passenger's "Let Her Go", some stations shortened the long pause before the final phrase, or just ended the song at that point. |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 11 May 2022 at 5:19am
Had forgotten about that one. Every station I heard it on (including mine) made that edit.
Don't think I've ever heard a version of the Passenger song with a long pause, so that must have been the promo version. We mostly played the shortened version of the Whitney Houston song. Don't know if it was an official edit, we used TM Hitdiscs, and that was on one of them. I absolutely HATED that song (still do), and anything that made it shorter was fine by me! ISTR we shortened the intro on the Fastball song even beyond what was on the promo. I was MD, so that one was on me. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 11 May 2022 at 10:05am
Hi Steve, somewhere on the forum, I seem to recall a discussion that the edit on the Hitdiscs was a TM edit and not official. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: sriv94
Date Posted: 11 May 2022 at 2:23pm
So not only was the flapamba edited out, the single was sped up a bit. Think the single of "Pretzel Logic" was as well. ------------- Doug --------------- All of the good signatures have been taken. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 22 May 2022 at 2:29am
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I don't know if it was "typically cued" but I cut off the "hit" and audience" from the
beginning of "We Didn't Start the Fire", starting the song when the actual "music" started. The intro point on any "fade in" song was different everywhere, like "More Than a Feeling", Elton's "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" or Anne Murray's "You Won't See Me". Sometimes a station would just crank up the volume on the intro so it wasn't a fade it at all and ride the gain. Again, it varied station by station. Another song with a frequent cut off intro: Black Water by the Doobie Brothers. Often starting when the guitars came in. It was a great example of a station's turntable rumble when they didn't! |
Posted By: BSharp
Date Posted: 24 May 2022 at 4:37pm
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Not everyone did this, but I used to skip the first 26 seconds of "We Like To Party" by the Vengaboys, basically eliminating the whole ramp-up
to the hook. It gave it way more energy, especially coming out of a stopset. |