Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
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Topic: Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
Posted By: promojunkie
Subject: Bonnie Raitt - Nick Of Time
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 8:00am
Though it barely cracked the Hot 100, the song Nick Of Time
by Bonnie Raitt was a moderate success in the Boston radio
market at the time. Does anyone have the promo cd single or
promo 45? The promo 45 states a duration of 3:44 and the
promo cd has no track duration listed and whoever posted it
on Discogs did not bother to list the track time from a cd
player. I initially thought it was a printed track
duration error but then remember the song playing faster on
the radio. Can anyone confirm if the promo version is
pitched faster, a remix or an early fade?
------------- Rick
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 8:23am
I'm curious about this one too as I carry the song in my
library. But, it's the 3:49 album version. It could just be
an earlier fade or a case of a 3:44 listed, 3:49 actual.
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Posted By: kaqueno
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 10:40am
The versions released on the CD TM Century HitDisc (799A -
837A), described a shorter time than the album version
(3:52), but I don't have those CDs and I can't corroborate
this information, maybe another member can.
CD 799A: 3:29
CD 837A: 3:36
cheers
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 10:44am
This may pose more questions than it answers. My Capitol
CD, CDP7 91268 2, Nick Of Time, runs 3:49 as does my 45 RPM
single, as
does an English E.P. 'Good Man, Good Woman', Capitol 7243 8
80151 2 7. 'The Best Of Bonnie Raitt on Capitol' CDP 7243 5
90491 2, is
not only speeded up by a few seconds, but clocks in at 4:04
and that makes it significantly longer. -Bill.
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Posted By: ChicagoBill
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 11:06am
The difference in speed between the 2 CD's I mentioned above is only 1.2 seconds. So....-Bill.
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Posted By: AdvprosD
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 12:13pm
kaqueno wrote:
The versions released on the CD TM Century HitDisc (799A -
837A), described a shorter time than the album version
(3:52), but I don't have those CDs and I can't corroborate
this information, maybe another member can.
CD 799A: 3:29
CD 837A: 3:36
cheers |
I probably have them, could send copies to you if you wanted to do comparative analysis.
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Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 12:38pm
kaqueno wrote:
The versions released on the CD TM Century HitDisc (799A -
837A), described a shorter time than the album version
(3:52), but I don't have those CDs and I can't corroborate
this information, maybe another member can.
CD 799A: 3:29
CD 837A: 3:36
cheers |
Please be aware that TM Century HitDisc and GoldDisc CDs list the "air" time and not the full run time. The times listed are when the DJ should be starting the next song or element.
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Posted By: kaqueno
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 1:45pm
aaronk wrote:
kaqueno wrote:
The versions released on
the CD TM Century HitDisc (799A -
837A), described a shorter time than the album version
(3:52), but I don't have those CDs and I can't
corroborate
this information, maybe another member can.
CD 799A: 3:29
CD 837A: 3:36
cheers |
Please be aware that TM Century HitDisc and GoldDisc CDs
list the "air" time and not the full run time. The times
listed are when the DJ should be starting the next song
or element. |
Very interesting your contribution Aaron
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 2:25pm
I have a few files on the hard drive (so I don't know the exact sources), but all play at the same speed. All of the fades start in the same place, but the tail of the fade is shortened or truncated on a few of them.
I'm willing to bet that the difference in timings is due to where the fade is truncated.
I grabbed a YouTube dub of "Nick Of Time" from The Best Of Bonnie Raitt On Capitol 1989–2003, and it runs 0.37% slower than the Nick Of Time album, which is real but insignificant. But the tail of the fade goes on about 30 beats longer than the Nick Of Time album, which is quite real and quite significant. The fade is over 30 seconds long on The Best Of Bonnie Raitt On Capitol 1989–2003! I can see why someone shortened it for the 1989 releases.
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 16 August 2022 at 8:38pm
crapfromthepast wrote:
I have a few files on the hard drive (so I don't know the exact sources), but all play at the same speed. All of the fades start in the same place, but the tail of the fade is shortened or truncated on a few of them.
I'm willing to bet that the difference in timings is due to where the fade is truncated.
I grabbed a YouTube dub of "Nick Of Time" from The Best Of Bonnie Raitt On Capitol 1989–2003, and it runs 0.37% slower than the Nick Of Time album, which is real but insignificant. But the tail of the fade goes on about 30 beats longer than the Nick Of Time album, which is quite real and quite significant. The fade is over 30 seconds long on The Best Of Bonnie Raitt On Capitol 1989–2003! I can see why someone shortened it for the 1989 releases. |
I have the 1990 Hot 100 hit running 3:50. Since it is 1990, one has to turn to the cassette for that era. That appears to run 3:52. No reason to believe the promo runs shorter either (DPRO-79721)
https://www.discogs.com/release/10119992-Bonnie-Raitt-Nick-Of-Time - https://www.discogs.com/release/10119992-Bonnie-Raitt-Nick-O f-Time
The 45 might have a few second fade which would explain the 3:44. But lately I can attest discogs has not been as accurate as one would think...
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Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 7:30am
I think I might have solved the mystery. I have an old
cassette tape that I made back in the early 90's that has
this song on it and most likely from the promo cd during my
radio days. It does run faster than the LP version. I
think this is a similar situation to Peabo Bryson "If Ever
You're In My Arms Again" where the radio version was sped
up to appeal to top 40 radio. Maybe if someone on the
forum has the promo cd single they can confirm.
------------- Rick
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Posted By: prisdeej
Date Posted: 17 August 2022 at 8:59pm
kaqueno wrote:
The versions released on the CD TM
Century HitDisc (799A -
837A), described a shorter time than the album version
(3:52), but I don't have those CDs and I can't
corroborate
this information, maybe another member can.
CD 799A: 3:29
CD 837A: 3:36
cheers |
The actual time on HitDisc 799A is 3:44. Keep in mind
that many of the HitDiscs around this time were mastered
from vinyl.
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 18 August 2022 at 9:33am
prisdeej wrote:
The actual time on HitDisc 799A is 3:44. Keep in mind
that many of the HitDiscs around this time were mastered
from vinyl. |
Is the 3:44 version an earlier fade of the 3:49 or is it
sped up to run 3:44?
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Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 27 August 2022 at 2:14pm
Closing the loop on this. Aaron send me a dub of the promo
cd and the single version is indeed pitched faster for a
track duration of 3:47 instead of the LP speed and duration
of 3:50.
------------- Rick
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Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 August 2022 at 9:48pm
Does this mean the TM Century file fades out 3 seconds
earlier than the promo CD single?
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Posted By: kaqueno
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 6:48am
eriejwg wrote:
Does this mean the TM Century file fades
out 3 seconds
earlier than the promo CD single? | .
The version included on the TM Century album (799A), has
a real running time of 3:42, i'm not sure if it's a
version that runs faster than the album version or has
some editing.
I was able to get a few copies of the versions included
on the TM Century HitDiscs, thanks to Dave and can say
the following:
CD 799A: 3:29 - with a real time of 3:42, bpm 121
CD 837A: 3:36 - with a real time of 3:50, bpm 118
version The Best Of Bonnie Raitt: 4:04 - with a real time
of 4:04, bpm 119
Perhaps there is another more expert member and can give
more details
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Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 9:33am
eriejwg wrote:
Does this mean the TM Century file fades out 3 seconds
earlier than the promo CD single? |
Yes. The promo CD runs 3:47.
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Posted By: promojunkie
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 9:38am
If you go to youtube, the official video matches this promo
single regarding speed and length. I have no idea where
the 4:04 version that is on her greatest hits comes from.
Could be the original was trimmed down for the 1989 cd and
all pressings at that time and left in tact for the hits
album. Just a theory, not fact.
------------- Rick
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Posted By: crapfromthepast
Date Posted: 28 August 2022 at 12:34pm
I can confirm that the promo CD single runs exactly 2.0% faster than the LP version. All else is basically the same.
The very tail of the fade on the promo CD single runs about 5 beats longer than the version I have on Time-Life's Rolling Stone Collection 1988-1989, but I don't know if the Time-Life disc shortened the tail of the fade from the Bonnie Raitt full-length CD.
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