O/T: Erasure - Sometimes
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Topic: O/T: Erasure - Sometimes
Posted By: NightAire
Subject: O/T: Erasure - Sometimes
Date Posted: 18 February 2023 at 1:47pm
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Can anybody confirm the actual, total length of the 7" single for Sometimes by Erasure? I'm finding versions on CD from 3:41 to 3:28. 13 seconds seems like more than just "mastering differences!"
The single label says "edit" but is labeled as 3:37... the same length as the source LP label. Thanks. ------------- Gene Savage http://www.BlackLightRadio.com - http://www.BlackLightRadio.com http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage - http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage Tulsa, Oklahoma USA |
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Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 19 February 2023 at 3:36am
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The 7" Version is a slightly different mix. Same structure, but unlike the album version, it begins with what sounds like an exhaled breath but I think is just an echo from something else unheard. It has lots of extra reverb and different stereo placement of instruments, it is pitched down ~1.4% (and sounds kind of bad at this speed), and the fade ends 5½ seconds sooner.
3:37 is the actual duration, assuming the 7" Version on the https://www.discogs.com/release/1307620-Various-Hit-It-Dance-Contemporary-Music - Hit It. CD (the basis of my description) is the same as on the vinyl 45. On that CD, it has 2 seconds of silence padding it out to 3:39. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 19 February 2023 at 9:12am
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Listening on Qobuz, the 12" version starts with the exhale
and sounds like the 7" version only longer. Perhaps, the 12" could be edited down to the 7" version? ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 21 February 2023 at 8:04am
| Nope. It's a different mix, with different stereo (the 7" is quite narrow), and a different breath sound at the start, even. The chorus parts of the 7" add a loud, echo-y tambourine-like sound on top of the snare. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 22 February 2023 at 5:43am
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I've always wondered if the 45 version made it onto CD. Great airplay hit! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
Posted By: mjb50
Date Posted: 23 February 2023 at 1:34am
| Where was "Sometimes" an airplay hit? I never heard it on the radio where I was. I assume it was a little too, uh, something for the middle-American audience at the time. |
Posted By: edogak2000
Date Posted: 23 February 2023 at 5:39am
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The 45 version is avaialable on the Erasure compilation "Total" (2009).
If you compare it with the "Circus" album version, you can clearly hear the difference (other drum, different synths) Adris |
Posted By: Paul C
Date Posted: 25 February 2023 at 9:29am
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I don't know if "Sometimes" is one of them, but bear in
mind that a number of US single versions of Erasure songs differ from those issued in other countries. Even the US and Canadian 45s of both "Chains Of Love" and "A Little Respect" are different. I assume that all Erasure compilations originate in the UK and that their references to single versions or mixes are to the UK singles. |
Posted By: PopArchivist
Date Posted: 26 February 2023 at 9:23am
It never charted on the Hot 100. I heard it all the time on radio in NY growing up. That and Oh L'Amour as well. Erasure was huge in the NY market! ------------- Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD." |
mjb50 wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 26 February 2023 at 2:08pm
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The version of "Sometimes" from Total Pop - The First 40
Hits is missing the opening breath I heard on a 45 on YouTube. ------------- John Gallagher Erie, PA https://www.johngallagher.com" rel="nofollow - John Gallagher Wedding & Special Event Entertainment / Snapblast Photo Booth |