People - "I Love You"
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Topic: People - "I Love You"
Posted By: jimct
Subject: People - "I Love You"
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 4:57am
| I'm sure this has been looked at before, but THE sharpest-eared audio expert I have EVER known becomes violently ill whenever I play any (4:31) stereo CD version of this song. Because of the soft intro, the wide stereo, etc., my eagle-eared colleague says that although it's likely the same take and the same note-for-note recording, the stereo version "seems to have no electricity to it at all." He says the compressed (4:31) mono mix does away with ALL the soft parts, and gives the song a noticably different feel. I was skeptical, but after listening, to my surprise I now agree with his analysis wholeheartedly! To me, the song's beginning is boosted way up; every note sounds MUCH hotter on the 45, and the song's classic last note is MUCH louder on the 45. IMHO, this song is the poster child for HOW much the same recording can have it's ENTIRE feel and personality substantially altered when a quality mixing engineer skillfully "strengthened" a song in preparation for 1968 AM radio airplay and 45 release. |
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Posted By: AndrewChouffi
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 11:23am
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The reverb levels and 'placement' are much better articulated on the 45 mono mix also.
Andy |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 28 May 2006 at 2:51pm
| It's the same recording, but the poor stereo mix has way too much reverb added. It sounds terrible, and I refuse to ever play it. I prefer either the mono single or the edited mono radio promo. |
Posted By: davidclark
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 5:28am
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so is the mono version available on CD? There is an "e" version... ------------- dc1 |
Posted By: Grant
Date Posted: 31 May 2006 at 8:56am
Not to my knowledge. There is a rechanneled version on a budget Capital SM CD, but it's not right. |
davidclark wrote:Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 February 2008 at 1:20pm
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With the recent passing of Larry Norman, this song came to mind. I have the mono single at 4:32, was looking to find a copy of the 2:43 mono single edit to recreate. Have checked all sources (eBay, Gemm, Musicstack) and no luck.
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Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 27 February 2008 at 5:44pm
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The promo edit cannot be created from the commercial version. The sustained piano note at the end is different, and fades faster than the one on the promo edit. I'm guessing that note was from another take of the song.
I have the promo single if you're interested. |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 27 February 2008 at 5:47pm
Hykker's right, you won't be able to recreate it. The 2:43 mono promo is a unique mix. The flip of the promo 45 features the differently-mixed 4:37 version also found on the mono commercial 45. And I agree heartily with the initial post: the reverb-o-matic stereo LP/CD mix is just awful. I have a studio copy from one of the stations I worked at that I cleaned up, but I do look periodically for a clean copy. However, the prospect of searching for either "I Love You" or "People" on gemm becomes an all-day ordeal. It was while googling for this particular 45 a few months back that led me to this board. Also saddened to hear of Phil Gernhard's passing. |
Posted By: eriejwg
Date Posted: 27 February 2008 at 8:33pm
| Hykker was very kind to send me a copy of his promo to listen to. Thank you! |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 29 February 2008 at 5:43am
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If anything, the mono mix is more dynamic. ------------- |
Posted By: aaronk
Date Posted: 03 March 2008 at 12:26am
I can see how those two searches would yield a long list of results; however, you might find that an "Advanced Search" (found at the top of the page), where you can search for BOTH the artist and title, will significantly slim down the list. ;) |
Posted By: randyrelix
Date Posted: 10 March 2008 at 2:20pm
| I have a copy of this song on the CD "Flower Power-Hits of the 60's" (CDLL-57271)that is mono and runs about 4:33. Those anyone know if this is the same as the Promo 45? |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 10 March 2008 at 4:36pm
Sounds like the commercial 45 version. The promo runs 2:43, has the long psychedelic intro edited off. There are also some edits in the body of the song. AFAIK, the promo version has never been commercially released. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 11 March 2008 at 10:05am
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Posted By: Todd Ireland
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 12:20am
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Hits Man:
When you say the mono version of "I Love You" on the Flower Power CD is not the actual mono mix, are you saying this disc contains an alternate take or a re-recording? Can you please elaborate? |
Posted By: TomDiehl1
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 1:29am
Actually, I believe that cd contains a mono fold down of the stereo LP version, rather than the actual 45 mix. ------------- Live in stereo. |
Posted By: randyrelix
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 9:37pm
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I just purchased a copy of the Capitol commercial 45 and it sounds the same as the cut on the CD. I may be wrong. I'll have to listen again. Also, the Capitol 45 list the running time as 4:37, but is actually 4:32. Just to clarify, are these the 3 versions of the single or are there more? 1. The LP stereo cut (echo) 2. the 45 version (mono at 4:32) and 3. the short (2:43) version from the promo 45. Concerning the long mono version, is there a difference between the commercial 45 and the promo 45?
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Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 9:04am
There were only two mixes used for the single, not three. The stereo LP cut was never issued on 45 as either a promo or stock Capitol 2078. To summarize, three different mixes of the song were done in 1968. In order from the least amount of reverb to the most: 1. The 2:43 mono mix on one side of the Capitol promo 45. Has never been issued commercially. 2. The 4:37 mono mix found on the flip side of the Capitol promo 45 and the Capitol commercial 45 (including the '80s-era Capitol Star Line reissue 45.) So to answer your question, no, there is no difference between the long mono 45 mix on the promo and stock copies. 3. The Capitol stereo LP mix. Any subsequent fold-downs of the stereo LP mix to either mono or rechanneled stereo will contain more reverb than the 4:37 mono 45 mix. 
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Posted By: randyrelix
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 12:35pm
| Thanks for the information. That answers my question. |
Posted By: BradOlson
Date Posted: 13 August 2008 at 7:21pm
| There is an (E) version on the Larry Norman CD "Rebel Poet, Jukebox Balladeer: The Anthology" on the Arena Recording Company and the catalog number is 57 released on May 27, 2008. The timing is 3:37. This is almost a minute shorter than the single, but about a minute longer than the radio edit and there is some distortion. |
Posted By: Bill Cahill
Date Posted: 03 June 2011 at 9:28am
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I finally have a copy of the DJ edit of this song and can summarize my own findings:
The electronically rechanneled versions of "I Love You" on "Flower Power" and the K-Tel "Battle of the Bands" sound like the full length mono side of my DJ copy, except they've had the bass/treble filtering done to it to make fake stereo. If you sum these recordings they match the DJ long side to my ear. There might be a little reverb added for more fake stereo effect but I'm not sure about that, it sounds pretty close to the long mono version to me. Frankly on first listen of these I might doubt it was the original 45, because I remember hearing the edited remix on the radio. I agree with all of Yah Sure's analysis. Outside of the obvious editing, here's everything different that I can documment on the short DJ side's mix. There are two organs on this recording, the main one that is the upfront organ, that is heard upfront on the organ solo, and a second one, which is mixed low on the mono versions (brought up a bit for the organ solo) but is ridiculously loud through the entire song on the stereo version, and is a complete distraction. Here's a key difference between the long and short mono mixes: On the long DJ mono version, (and I'm assuming stock copy)this second organ is heard low under the guitar hits playing in unison with the guitar in the sections where they sing "I shouldn't hide, my love deep inside" (both times) Again it's ridiculously loud on the stereo mix. However, the DJ edit almost totally eliminates this second organ on those verses, (I don't hear it at all on the second go round, but it might be there VERY low to be felt, not heard) leaving the guitar hits by themselves, giving the song more "punch". Also, everytime they sing "And I don't know what to say", the long mono version dips significantly in level.(As does the stereo version as it's in one channel) The short DJ copy mixes those parts upfront to full level every time. Again, giving the song more punch. In general the levels on everything are more even on the short DJ version, and I believe it's slightly more compressed. On the song's last note, the long mono DJ version dips in level significantly and has very little of that second organ on the final note. On the DJ short version, they mixed up that second organ on that last note, and raised the volume up to the rest of the song's level to to give the ending more punch. There may be more differences, but that's what I can determine. |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 05 June 2011 at 6:07am
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That Stereo LP version to me sounds phasey and lacks coherence and focus. The mono 45 is so much superior, it is unreal. And that annoying excessive reverb is gone. A note, StarLine reissues early on might have been in mono, but the late ones are that annoying Stereo mix. Weird for Capitol, they were good at keeping their reissues correct as a rule to the original singles. The short 45 version on the DJ Promo single is unique, can not be recreated. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Yah Shure
Date Posted: 05 June 2011 at 8:56am
Did the "I Love You"/"Nobody But Me" (Human Beinz) Starline reissue even make it to the '90s colorband label? I bought this Specialty-pressed http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh240/YahShure/People-ILoveYouStarlinereissue.jpg - purple Starline copy in the mid-'90s when my neighborhood record store began to significantly jack up the price of some of the Starline reissues as they went out of print. Both sides of my purple label Starline are mono. Bill: Thanks for the added input! |
Posted By: KentT
Date Posted: 05 June 2011 at 10:19am
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I saw some with Stereo labels which were Blue. I'll get myself one (they're less than $2 in near mint) and play it and see what I get. Thanks for giving me some reference to the era of Starline single you own. I have seen Purple label Starlines and Rainbow labels of this title. It was available to the end of vinyl 45 issues. ------------- I turn up the good and turn down the bad! |
Posted By: Hykker
Date Posted: 05 June 2011 at 6:23pm
I can think of a couple other Starline singles that used the album versions: Joe South's "Games People Play" and "Long Long Time"-Linda Ronstadt. I have both of these on the early 70s target reissues, so the incorrect versions go back to when these were initially released. Likewise "Ramblin' Gamblin' Man" is (E) on the Starline. |
Posted By: DJghr1
Date Posted: 26 December 2011 at 6:44pm
| I managed to significantly reduce the amount of echo in the stereo mix. It seem the sound engineer widened the stereo & in the process, in came the echo. If you reduce the stereo effect (I used Nero) to about 25%-30%, the vocals come out considerably & sounds far superior. If anyone is interested on what I did, feel free to PM me for a review. It's not quite perfect, merely an attempt on making an edited stereo version sound tolerable. |
Posted By: The Hits Man
Date Posted: 27 December 2011 at 10:35pm
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Narrowing the stereo should be easy to do in a program like
Audition. but, i'd rather just use the mono mix and be done with it. ------------- |