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It should be noted that for many of the charts prior to 1984 (including the Hot 100) Record Research gave Billboard the
weekly files from our internal database. One of my (many) jobs was proofing those files. This was done many years ago. I
can't speak to anything after 1984 (when Billboard began computerizing their charts). Don't forget, humans enter the data,
so there's always the possibility for mistakes.
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More fun: Not sure if RR will ever update their Dance book, but back in the
80s the chart ran 50 titles deep and under the chart was a fluctuating
numbered list of songs called “Breakouts”… (“titles with future chart
potential”). BB’s retro charts are now showing those breakout songs as if
they were on the actual chart back then. (Thus the number 6 breakout
song is listed now as 56 that week.). Which changes the title’s ‘weeks on’
and debut date retroactively if it eventually graduated to the official dance
chart. Mess.
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How's the 1955-2020 annual coming?

Just curious but where does it go from here. I was thinking wouldnt it be cool if you put in the rankings from 1940-1954 so it covers 80 years of music?

I would love something where I can look at all the airplay hits that didnt chart on the Hot 100 for each year of the annual but were huge hits now that they were left out of the new two book set of 1955-1989 and 1990-2021.

You do this for 1990's hits that never charted on the Hot 100. Like having a listing after each year of the classic Non-Hot 100 Airplay Hits for each year. Just a thought...



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We haven't started work on a Pop Annual update yet. There actually weren't that many huge non-Hot 100 Airplay hits
prior to 1990, that was really a trend of that decade. The Radio & Records book (and the upcoming Gavin Report book)
will shine a light on those, but again it's not like they were all over the place.
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Hey Paul, I think I remember years ago on one of the
Record Research mailers seeing a wantlist of Joel's and
one of the things he was looking for was Natalie Cole's
"Starting Over Again" on Cassette Single. I was just
wondering if he ever found one, because I checked Discogs
and the song doesn't have a listing for a Cassette Single
in the US, just a vinyl 45, 12" test pressing and promo
CD Single. I collected Cassette Singles at the time and
was looking for it myself, but could never find one.
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Paul - question:



Was just looking through the 2002 Pop Singles and saw that you included all
relevant Airplay / Sales peaks.



Do you recall how you handled that odd transition period in 1991 when there
were two published airplay charts (Monitored vs Playlists)?



Was there a transition date that you used for all data or did you just use the
higher of each hit's two airplay peaks?
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Originally posted by jebsib jebsib wrote:

Paul - question:



Was just looking through the 2002 Pop Singles and saw
that you included all
relevant Airplay / Sales peaks.



Do you recall how you handled that odd transition period
in 1991 when there
were two published airplay charts (Monitored vs
Playlists)?



Was there a transition date that you used for all data or
did you just use the
higher of each hit's two airplay peaks?


Check out the bottom of page xiii of the introduction for
an explanation.
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Thanks for replying.







So a song like Michael Bolton's "Love is a Wonderful Thing" has an official

Record Research airplay peak of #2 (from the playlists chart) despite getting

no higher than #8 on the Radio Monitor (now called Radio Songs)... as the

Monitor did not become the official 'canon' airplay chart till 6/8/91. Got it.



What a nightmare that period must have been.







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I am going to guess its going to be another year or two for the Pop Annual (1955-2022) right?

Also is the 2nd Top Pop Singles Book (1990-2021) coming out soon? I thought it was going to be released this year.

Thanks in advance Paul.
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Originally posted by PopArchivist PopArchivist wrote:

I am going to guess its going to be
another year or two for the Pop Annual (1955-2022) right?

Also is the 2nd Top Pop Singles Book (1990-2021) coming
out soon? I thought it was going to be released this
year.

Thanks in advance Paul.


Hoping that the Pop Annual will be sometime next year
(2023).

Top Top Pop Singles Volume 2 will cover 1990-2022 and be
out sometime next year (2023). Obviously, Joel's passing
kind of pushed everything back a bit. It's basically
just me doing most of the work on the books and they take
a lot of time to put together correctly.
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