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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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It should be noted that for many of the charts prior to 1984 (including the Hot 100) Record Research gave Billboard the
weekly files from our internal database. One of my (many) jobs was proofing those files. This was done many years ago. I can't speak to anything after 1984 (when Billboard began computerizing their charts). Don't forget, humans enter the data, so there's always the possibility for mistakes. |
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jebsib ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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More fun: Not sure if RR will ever update their Dance book, but back in the
80s the chart ran 50 titles deep and under the chart was a fluctuating numbered list of songs called “Breakouts”… (“titles with future chart potential”). BB’s retro charts are now showing those breakout songs as if they were on the actual chart back then. (Thus the number 6 breakout song is listed now as 56 that week.). Which changes the title’s ‘weeks on’ and debut date retroactively if it eventually graduated to the official dance chart. Mess. |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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How's the 1955-2020 annual coming?
Just curious but where does it go from here. I was thinking wouldnt it be cool if you put in the rankings from 1940-1954 so it covers 80 years of music? I would love something where I can look at all the airplay hits that didnt chart on the Hot 100 for each year of the annual but were huge hits now that they were left out of the new two book set of 1955-1989 and 1990-2021. You do this for 1990's hits that never charted on the Hot 100. Like having a listing after each year of the classic Non-Hot 100 Airplay Hits for each year. Just a thought... Edited by PopArchivist |
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Favorite two expressions to live by on this board: "You can't download vinyl" and "Not everything is available on CD."
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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We haven't started work on a Pop Annual update yet. There actually weren't that many huge non-Hot 100 Airplay hits
prior to 1990, that was really a trend of that decade. The Radio & Records book (and the upcoming Gavin Report book) will shine a light on those, but again it's not like they were all over the place. |
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thecdguy ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 14 August 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 20 |
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Hey Paul, I think I remember years ago on one of the
Record Research mailers seeing a wantlist of Joel's and one of the things he was looking for was Natalie Cole's "Starting Over Again" on Cassette Single. I was just wondering if he ever found one, because I checked Discogs and the song doesn't have a listing for a Cassette Single in the US, just a vinyl 45, 12" test pressing and promo CD Single. I collected Cassette Singles at the time and was looking for it myself, but could never find one. |
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jebsib ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Paul - question:
Was just looking through the 2002 Pop Singles and saw that you included all relevant Airplay / Sales peaks. Do you recall how you handled that odd transition period in 1991 when there were two published airplay charts (Monitored vs Playlists)? Was there a transition date that you used for all data or did you just use the higher of each hit's two airplay peaks? |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Check out the bottom of page xiii of the introduction for an explanation. |
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jebsib ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 April 2006 Status: Offline Points: 16 |
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Thanks for replying.
So a song like Michael Bolton's "Love is a Wonderful Thing" has an official Record Research airplay peak of #2 (from the playlists chart) despite getting no higher than #8 on the Radio Monitor (now called Radio Songs)... as the Monitor did not become the official 'canon' airplay chart till 6/8/91. Got it. What a nightmare that period must have been. Edited by jebsib |
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PopArchivist ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 June 2018 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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I am going to guess its going to be another year or two for the Pop Annual (1955-2022) right?
Also is the 2nd Top Pop Singles Book (1990-2021) coming out soon? I thought it was going to be released this year. Thanks in advance Paul. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 44 |
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Hoping that the Pop Annual will be sometime next year (2023). Top Top Pop Singles Volume 2 will cover 1990-2022 and be out sometime next year (2023). Obviously, Joel's passing kind of pushed everything back a bit. It's basically just me doing most of the work on the books and they take a lot of time to put together correctly. |
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