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budaniel ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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hey guys,
I'm wondering about the various versions of Sexual Healing on the Midnight Love reissue. I have a 12" single version (a CBS reissue) that runs about 4:44, and begins with the "get up, wake up" whispered echoes shortly into the percussion intro. I have a version on the Canadian SPG Music compilation "Old School Jams 4" that runs 4:49 and is called the "alternate Vocal Mix", and the opening lines soon after the percussion intro are "oh baby let's get down tonight". This version comes in oddly on the opening percussion, as if it cuts into it rather than starts cleanly on the beat. Also, whereas there's a huge blank spot in the middle of the vinyl mix that has just background vocals, the SPG mix has a load of extra lyrical ad-libs by Marvin that aren't on the original versions of this song. so my questions are: 1) is the "alternate vocal version" I have the same as the one on the Midnight Love reissue--including the added ad-libs and the odd opening of the song? 2) is the vinyl 12" version I have the same as the "original vocal version" Pat has listed on the Midnight Love reissue, which says it runs 4:39? 3) finally, what makes the LP version different from the 45 version, and why is the 45 version slightly longer? I have the "LP version" on Chart toppers 80s, romantic hits of the 80s." Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Aaron reported the differences between the 45 version and LP version about a year ago. The 45 is longer than the LP version and that is because of an extra :08 of singing that starts at 3:20.
The "original vocal version" on the cd "Midnight Love & The Sexual Healing Sessions" has the line "Oh baby let's get down tonight" at the start of the song with no preceding instrumentation. This version does not start with "get up, wake up" near the beginning of the song so I do not think it is what you have on your 12" single. The "alternate vocal" version has the line "Oh baby let's get down tonight" starting at exactly :11 and appears to be the version you have on your "Old School Jams 4" cd but since I do not have that cd I can't say for certain this is correct. |
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budaniel ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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okay. thanks Pat. This 12" vinyl version is really a mystery. I don't even know if the song was ever released on a 12" version before this re-issue.
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Jeff H. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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It wasn't issued commercially in the US until 1989, when CBS released it as part of their Mixed Masters 12" reissue series. It has "The Groove" by Rodney Franklin on the B-side, is still in print today. Interestingly enough, it was released on a 12" back 1982 in the UK.
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budaniel ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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yeah. the mixed master version is the one I have. Upon listening to it, it's actually not very interesting. The "alternate take", which runs just as long, is more about the Marvin's vocals creating the length, rather than repetitive dub-type filler to create an "extended version", which is what the 12" version is guilty of.
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Jeff H. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Only as an import. The US 12" single that was available at the time was a promotional only pressing for radio and club DJ's. |
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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I think CBS must have just been throwing darts at a clock when deciding what timings to list on releases of "Sexual Healing."
Discogs says that UK release claims the "Club Mix" is 4:40. A friend sent me an mp3 of that same record... and it runs about 6:28. The Mexican release of the 12" claims IT runs 6:51! Then, supposedly, there is a US-only promo that was released with an instrumental-only version for that A-side... that's supposed to run 5:30. Another UK 12" lists the album version and the alternate versions mentioned above, none of the lengths matching previously claimed OR confirmed lengths. There's another European 12" with a "long version" on one side and a "short version" on the other... the short version is said to run 3:59, and that sounds right... but the long version is listed as 4:47... could that be the alternative version? Who knows! This supposed US release claims a long version at 5:10! I've found mp3s of the song online that run 6:30 (Club Version), 7:41 (Rock Savage Mix), 4:49 (Alternate Vocal Mix), 4:40 (Original Vocal), and 6:54 (Long Version). I've also seen mentions online of a "Thiago Correa Samba-rock Mix," an "Ultimix," and a "Dreamtime Mix." Obviously many of these could be mixes created in later years... but who knows? Who knows where those labels came from, if they are the original description of the versions... ...Will the REAL 1982 12" extended version please stand up?!? :-( |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 93 |
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Found one of my older posts to explain the difference
between the LP and 45 versions...
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 208 |
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I had the promo 12" single on the turntable today, so I thought I'd report on its contents.
Side A Long Version (printed 5:10; actual 4:49) Side B Short Version (printed 3:52; actual 4:08) The Long Version has a different vocal take in places when compared with the Short Version (aka 45 version). This version does not appear on the Midnight Love/Sexual Healing Sessions at all. I'm wondering, however, if we can trace its origins by listening to the "Original Vocal Version" on that disc. This version is actually an acapella that is double-tracked in a few places. The final LP and 45 mix doesn't appear to have those double-tracked vocals, and neither does the promo 12" Long Version. I think what may have happened when the Long Version was mixed is that they chose the other vocal in some places (the one that didn't get chosen for the LP mix). All that said, it seems that the Long Version was never really intended to be an "extended mix" done after the fact. I think it was possibly one of several mixes created at or around the same time that the 45 and LP mix was done. |
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