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Twelve years later...

Never mind: the 45 is indeed a different mix than the LP version. Fading the LP version early won't work.

The promo CD single of the "Nellee Hooper's 7 Inch" includes an odd glitch around nine seconds in. There's a drumbeat missing, and the syllable "in" is pasted over the missing beat, so it sounds a little like a stutter. The glitch only affects the attack of one drumbeat, and if you're beat-matching, you wouldn't even notice it. The same analog transfer (including the glitch) is used on:
  • Hitmakers Vol. 22 June 16 1989 - left and right channels swapped
  • Rhino's Billboard Hot R&B Hits 1989 (1995) - tail of fade is about two beats shorter
  • Time-Life's Uptown Saturday Night Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now (2007) - tail of fade is about seven beats shorter
A different analog transfer is used on the UK 3-inch CD single (10 Records TEN CD 263, released 1989). The EQ is a little more muffled than the US releases, but the length is about the same and it lacks the glitch at nine seconds in!

Thanks to Eric M for discovering the glitch and finding a CD that lacks it.

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There's also a fraction of a second of sound missing 1 second later, at the beginning of the word "stop". Can't really hear that one but it's evident in a wave editor.

It seems the UK 45 has the glitch: (ref: YouTube)

So does the US 45 have the glitch too?

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Thanks for giving props, Ron! You know I love to help. I think it was Bwci Bo that actually noticed the glitch first, though. I only humbly but efficiently located a version without it, haha.
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Volume IV The Classic Singles 88-93 might fit the bill as
well.

I can't unhear that glitch now.

"Move me no mountain" Hackney mix is the killer cut but
it's on a single and a few compilations.
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Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:



So does the US 45 have the glitch too?



I'm not sure about the 45, but I know the cassette single
definitely has the glitch.
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Originally posted by crapfromthepast crapfromthepast wrote:

The promo CD single of the "Nellee Hooper's 7 Inch" includes an odd glitch around nine seconds in. There's a drumbeat missing, and the syllable "in" is pasted over the missing beat, so it sounds a little like a stutter. The glitch only affects the attack of one drumbeat, and if you're beat-matching, you wouldn't even notice it.


Yes, I just ripped a copy of the US 12", which contains the same glitch. It seems during mastering one bass drum sample wasn't triggered. I simply copied the initial bass drum sample from the beginning of the song, and pasted it over the glitch point. And voila - it sounds normal: Keep On Movin 7" fix - U-Tube

If that wasn't a creative choice, perhaps someone momentarily muted the bass drum track during playback (unlikely), or the sampler experienced a glitch during mastering (more likely). In that same era I had a Korg M1 keyboard, which you could use to program and record instruments, drums, etc. Periodically, though rarely, during playback samples would get skipped and not show up - despite being programmed correctly. I'd reboot the machine or free up memory, and they would reappear.

Supposition: Likely an accident, but one that was left in intentionally. After all, everyone in the studio, label and so on would have to have noticed that.
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