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The long commercial 45 (U.S. issue, actual running time 5:11) is shorter than the original LP "Arc of a Diver."
The long commercial 45 has the first :01.8-cut on the LP. So this 45 doesn't contain the shaking bell sound.
Although my LP is the Japan issue, this LP version source on the U.S. box set CD "The finer things" contains the shaking bell sound.

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I checked my US 45 of "While You See a Chance" at it's the longer version. The deadwax has a "RE1" next to the numbers. Looks like this version was released after the edited version was. Looks like both versions had the same picture sleeve.

I know sometimes artists complained when their songs were edited, but I wonder what the reason was for releasing this both ways. There are numerous examples of this and I doubt it was the artist complaining every time.

Strange that they wouldn't change the label. Most people buying the single were probably surprised when it timed out much longer than the 4:07 on the label.

FWIW, the Canadian 45 also had 4:07 on the label, but I never bought it (opting for the LP at the time). I presume it was actually the shorter version. Sometimes there were two versions of Canadian 45s, but I don't think this was one of them.
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Maybe the reason they released the long-version 45 after the edited 45 was because they realized how awkward the edit sounded. In fact, I vote it as the #1 most awkward edit in history. Maybe you have to be slightly familiar with the long version to know how weird this edit is. They cut at the end of the words "your way" (an AY-sound) and come in during the middle of an "EEE" sound (and there might have even been a sax that gets cut in as well.) Has anyone else noticed how awkward this edit sounds?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sriv94 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 June 2010 at 5:10pm
Yep. Led me to think that any 45 version of "Chance" on CD couldn't possibly be the 45 because a 45 wouldn't have that awkward an edit.

I don't think that's a sax solo, though, Gordon; I'm pretty sure it's Winwood showing off on the keyboards.
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I agree, that's one of the worst edits ever actually released, in my view.
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http://www.top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=288& KW=winwood+chance&PN=0&TPN=2

I thought it was a bad edit too...lol

We should start a thread on bad edits. I think that the radio edit of Steve Winwood's "While You See a Chance" has to take the cake for the worst blade cut in history.

(this is what I wrote on the Radio-Info Forum...)

In attempts to edit out the first bridge and second verse, Island records attempts to join ".....your waaaaaaaay" with "can you beeeeeeee". What they think they will accomplish is making Stevie sound like he's improvising. I'm sure it sounded good in their heads.     What you end up with is "your waaaaaa/eeeeeee". It is severely abrupt. Driving over speed bumps at 90 mph is a gentler experience.

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From what I recall, the edit of Aerosmith's "Dream On" also produces a similarly dreadful effect... rejoining a word in mid-note.
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It's funny but I was going to list the single edit of "Dream On" as the 2nd most awkward edit ever. But then I remembered, when I heard this version on the radio in 1973 (and when I bought that 45 right away), I didn't even notice anything weird there. It was only after I got to know the long version in later years, and then went back to hear the 45 that the edit sounded awful to me. So I figured, if I didn't notice it the first time around, I wouldn't list it here as the 2nd worst edit of all time. But yes, it has the same effect as that of Winwood's. It rejoins another word with a different vowel midnote. In Boston, this edited version was a big hit in '73 (3 years before it took off nationally), and I've always wondered (in recent years) if Steven Tyler, Joe Perry & crew cringed when the label first showed them that edit.

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To EdisonLite:

That Aerosmith single was a REMIX & they could have majorly smoothed out that edit...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David Pro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 August 2020 at 10:03am
The shorter 45 edit of "While You See a Chance"
running 4:07 is also available on the US release of
the compilation album Revolutions: The Very Best of
Steve Winwood
.

https://www.discogs.com/es/Steve-Winwood-Revolutions-
The-Very-Best-Of-Steve-Winwood/release/2371752

The UK/European release, however, uses the LP version
running 5:10.

https://www.discogs.com/es/Steve-Winwood-Revolutions-
The-Very-Best-Of-Steve-Winwood/release/3036299
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