Sun Ain’t Gonna Shine Anymore

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   Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all available CD versions of the Walker Bros. "The Sun

Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" is faded early from the

original 45 version? If you listen to the 45, there

is a long "oooh-oooh-wee-oooh" vocal that fades out.

This is totally missing on all CDs available here.

I had to get an imported Walkers CD from Europe which

has that 45 version. It is in mono however. Just

thought someone might be interested.

Chris Quinn

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Chris Quinn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Quinn Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Sun Ain’t Gonna Shine Anymore Posted: 20 January 2006 at 10:53pm
	Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all available CD versions of the Walker Bros. "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" is faded early from the original 45 version? If you listen to the 45, there is a long "oooh-oooh-wee-oooh" vocal that fades out. This is totally missing on all CDs available here. I had to get an imported Walkers CD from Europe which has that 45 version. It is in mono however. Just thought someone might be interested. Chris Quinn

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2006 at 11:05pm
	Welcome to the board, Chris! Do you know exactly how long your vinyl 45 copy of "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" runs? I'm trying to determine how early the versions on CD fade compared to the 45. I have the lone domestic CD appearance of the song in mono on the Love Sixties CD (JCI 3102) and the sound quality is horrendous. Does the mono version on your CD sound clean? And which Walker Brothers disc has the full 45 version?

Chris Quinn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Quinn Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2006 at 11:37pm
	Todd, Thanks for the welcome !! Although it's filed away right now, the 45 if I remember correctly runs about 3:06 but might even be labeled a few seconds longer. The missing seconds of fading song are noticeable to an old dinosaur DJ like myself who has probably played that song several hundred times on the air over the years. The import CD is "Portrait" issued by Polygram-UK and its catalog number is #5581802. The track is labeled 3:17 run time and has a few extra seconds faded from the 45. By the way, this was the ONLY imported CD I found that has this version of the song. All the others are the stereo versions that are chopped at 2:59 or 3:00. Chris Quinn

TomDiehl1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote TomDiehl1 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2006 at 1:46am
	The original 45 is labeled 3:04.
	Live in stereo.

Paul Esch Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 15 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paul Esch Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2006 at 7:56am
	My original 45 (Smash 2032) is listed at, and times out to, 3:04.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2006 at 8:49am
	3:04 is how long the mono version runs on my Love Sixties CD. So I take it, I do have the complete 45 length then? As I mentioned in my previous post, the sound quality of "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore" on this disc is awful. Chris Quinn, how would you describe the sound quality of the song on your import CD?

Chris Quinn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 20 January 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris Quinn Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2006 at 1:25pm
	Todd, The imported "Portrait" CD has been digitally remastered from the original master tapes. Sound quality is top notch. You apparently have the 45 length version, but I'd recommend getting the import disc for the improvement in quality plus you'll have the extra length of fadeout not on the 45. Chris Quinn

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	3:04 is the correct LP and 45 length for this song and there is only 1 cd in the US that includes the complete version of this song and that is the JCI cd mentioned in the database. The vinyl LP which states stereo, is not stereo, so that leads me to believe that the song was remixed from the multitracks for stereo cd release and there must be some tape damage at the point where the stereo versions fade out.
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Michaeldila Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 25 April 2014 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Michaeldila Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 October 2017 at 9:22pm
	Where can one find the best stereo version of this song? Scott’s voice sounds very pushed back in all the versions i have...

MMathews Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote MMathews Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 October 2017 at 1:29am
	Pat, the stereo mix is from 60s but only released overseas. Smash in the U.S. just wasn't given or didn't ask for it in stereo. Years ago I had both of their hits in stereo on a UK best-of album from late 60s. Like many other UK hits, the stereo versions made their way over here in the CD era. As for the early fade, it's just another case of whoever mixed it for stereo at the time just approximated the fade based on notes or whatever. Most people didn't or don't care - but ooooh so frustrating to us collectors! (and for crazy mastering guys who's job it is to "fix" an early fade on a stereo master, too many times) Michaeldila, to my knowledge there's only the one mix. It's possible a particular CD might sound a little better if the engineer EQ'd it differently but that's about all they can do. Sometimes narrowing the channels will bring a vocal out a little more in the center. MM Edited by MMathews