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Originally posted by Santi Paradoa Santi Paradoa wrote:

Where
does the "Levon" radio edit appear? This is news to
me.


I meant to say "edits," not "radio edits" in particular.
The commercial and promo 45 for "Levon" are shorter than
the album version.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Santi Paradoa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 December 2019 at 7:19pm
Ok so is the "Levon" 45 just an early fade of the longer LP version?
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Originally posted by Bill Cahill Bill Cahill wrote:

I don't know of one. I only knew of
stations not playing it, or only allowing the DJ's to say
"Elton John from the album Caribou"
or simply "Elton John from Caribou".


That was the dictate at the station I worked at in 1974,
there was a note on the cart itself that said essentially
you NEVER mention the song title on air. Upthread I
referenced Billy Joel's "Worse Comes To Worst" which was
out at around the same time, and the b-word was ducked on
the promo copies. I recall at the time one of my fellow
jocks commenting on the air after playing it saying how
he wondered how Elton John's new song if they did the
same thing.
As far as Meredith Brooks' song in the 90s, I don't
recall that we had a specific policy on announcing the
title...I'd always just refer to it as the "big bad b-
word song".

Originally posted by PopArchivist PopArchivist wrote:

Not just that have you ever really
seen any radio edits for Elton? His songs often pass 5
minutes (think of Bennie and the Jets and Little Jeanie)
and no one tries to shorten them they just play them as
is.


While MCA never put out an official edit for any of EJ's
songs (aside from "Tiny Dancer"), many stations did their
own...I definitely remember we did house edits for "Lucy
In The Sky..." (shortened intro/early fade) and "Someone
Saved My Life" (one verse removed, early fade). We might
have done one on "Philadelphia Freedom" too, don't recall
for sure.

The RKO-General chain was pretty strict on song lengths
then, I'd imagine they created their own edits too.
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Had a promo of the single one time.
Word Bitch was still there.
Any removal of the word was an in house edit.
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I may have mentioned this previously, but I never recall
hearing either "Bad Blood" by Neil Sedaka (there's Elton
again!) or "Rich Girl" by Hall & Oates being edited at the
time they were popular. In many ways, people just weren't
as uptight about such trivial matters back then.

Also, many stations across the country did in-house edits
on those longer Elton John hits.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Hykker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 December 2019 at 6:58am
Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

I never recall
hearing either "Bad Blood" by Neil Sedaka (there's Elton
again!) or "Rich Girl" by Hall & Oates being edited at
the
time they were popular.


There was an edit of the Hall & Oates song, I recall
hearing it on several stations (including some small
market ones) during the song's chart run. Not sure where
it came from...I wasn't working in radio in the spring of
'77 ("day job" conflict), and I've never come across an
RCA promo that had the edit...dunno if the label produced
an edit and distributed it on tape to stations that
asked, or if it was done by a third party and just made
the rounds. Essentially the line "you're a rich girl"
was substituted for "it's a bitch girl" throughout the
song.

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Originally posted by Paul Haney Paul Haney wrote:

In many ways, people just weren't
as uptight about such trivial matters back then.


Yet songs like the Devil Went Down To Georgia by the Charlie Daniels Band in 1979 avoid the bitch lyrics on the 45 version that were present on the LP ("I told you once, you son of a bitch I'm the best that's ever been").

So they were more uptight in 1979 then just two years earlier with Rich Girl? Hell who's the genius who thought "white boy" in Play That Funky Music needed to be edited out? Now that's destroying a classic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On6VtPhOxr4

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Originally posted by Hykker Hykker wrote:

Essentially the line "you're a rich girl"
was substituted for "it's a bitch girl" throughout the
song.


Now that would be quite interesting to hear. Too bad it wasn't issued as a legit promo 45...

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Interesting to note (going back to "Bitch") that WLS and WABC did play an edited version of "The Bitch Is Back," but not censoring the B
word. Seems ABC had more problem with the verse ending in "I get high in the evening sniffing pots of glue."

(Although it did help make it a tight (3:13) run time to suit their "nothing over three minutes" tastes. :) )
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There was a local Adult Contemporary station in 1977 that
played the 'edited' version of Hall & Oates. I remember
visiting a DJ at the station that I knew and he showed me
a small reel box from WWWE in Cleveland. He said that's
who sent them their edit.
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