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Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers - Breakdown |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 17 |
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LP label timing is 2:42; 45 label timing 2:39 and states "edited from the LP
"Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers". Does anyone have the (charting) 45 and the original LP to compare to see if it is truly edited or not? The original 45 label timing is 2:42 (and does NOT have the "edited" comment). We have come across songs already with as little as 0:04 edited out to make the 45.... Edited by davidclark |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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David, there were actually two different "Breakdown" 45 releases on
Shelter issued in 1977. As it reads, your question can't be fully answered until I first add some background details. Petty's self-titled, debut LP was released around November of 1976. The 1st 45 release from the album was "Breakdown", b/w "The Wild One, Forever", as Shelter/ABC 62006, in January 1977. This is the *only* 45 release of "Breakdown" with a listed time of (2:42) and with no mention of "edited from the LP, TP & The H" on the label. (FYI, current db CDs have runtimes for the track ranging from (2:39) to (2:41).) This initial "Breakdown" single totally stiffed out in the U.S. As a result, few copies were ever pressed, making both promo and stock 45s rare. But I was luckily able to locate/buy a Shelter/ABC 62006 promo 45 online just now, and I will provide its timing details when it arrives to me in the mail. We both strongly suspect that the Shelter/ABC 62006 45 listed (2:42) timing, absent the "edit" notation, will exactly mimic the original LP version. Still, I'm curious to 100% confirm this, too (which is why I just bought the early 45), so I'm very glad you've raised the question here, my friend! Crazy how some edits end up being so brief in total seconds cut, it hardly seems worth it. Meanwhile, Petty and his band managed to land a spot as an opening act on Nils Lofgren's 1977 UK tour. Some nice, positive band buzz had come from their live shows across the pond, so Shelter decided to try to capitalize on that fact by issuing "Breakdown" as a U.S. single for a second time, around October of 1977. Shelter was a small label and didn't release many singles, so the new "Breakdown" stock # was only two digits higher than its previous 45 release. Now issued as Shelter/ABC 62008, and this time b/w "Fooled Again (I Don't Like It)". It debuted on the Hot 100 in early November '77, before peaking at exactly #40 in 2/78. Both the stock 45 and the stereo side of my Shelter 62008 promo 45 have listed times of (2:39), actual times of (2:38), and handwritten deadwax info of "SR-62008-AS RE-1 1A". And I"ll soon be following up with both the early 45 actual time and a compare/contrast of the two 45s, searching for that possible small edit/final piece of the puzzle. Edited by jimct |
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MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I always just assumed the single was re-released and
peaked in '78 because of its in the soundtrack to "FM." I never noticed the peak date of the single actually pre- dates the movie soundtrack by several months. |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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I'll be anxious to know if the listings in the database
that are 2:40-2:41 run slower than the 45 or if the 45 fades out earlier. I can't imagine what would be edited out. lol. |
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MCT1 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 December 2007 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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To underscore how few singles Shelter was putting out at this point, the number in between was actually another Petty single, "American Girl" (62007). Just like the first release of "Breakdown", it failed to chart. The album first broke into the Top 200 in September 1977. |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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These days, both Breakdown and American Girl are Classic
Rock staples. |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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David, my promo 45 copy of the listed (2:42), initial, non-hit 45 release on
Shelter 62006 (which we both strongly suspect is the original LP version - and of course, if anyone now owns his S/T debut album on vinyl (on Shelter 52006), feel free to offer up the "Breakdown" listed/actual timing details from there) has arrived. I have just shot you out dubs of the stereo side of both that 45 and the later, listed (2:39), #40 BB peak hit 45 on Shelter 62008. Please compare/contrast the two versions and report back your findings, whenever your schedule permits. You definitely piqued my interest here with your quite observant, "possible :03 second edit" possibility! You're so right when you say that small, "why bother" edits do pop up now and again. :) Edited by jimct |
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davidclark ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 17 |
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Thanks, Jim, for sending me the dubs. I hear no edits at all. The only thing I
can tell is that the 2nd 45 runs about :03 faster than the original issue. |
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