OT: Men Without Hats’ Other 83-84 Singles

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   Hi All,

Hope someone may be able to provide some info. on the single edits on either of the direct follow-up singles to "The Safety Dance", "I Like" (#84 Hot 100) and "I 

Got the Message" (Did Not Chart).  Both singles had 45 versions that did not match the Rhythm of Youth album versions.  According to their respective 

printed run times, "I Like" ran 3:22 and the 'Short Message' version of 

"I Got the Message was 3:30 in length".  (I am making an assumption here 

that the shorter version of "Message" on the promo 12" is the same as the A-side of the commercial and promo 45's, but I could be wrong of course as I own none 

of them.)

Does anyone have knowledge of how to perform the edits to recreate these singles, as the handful of times that either have turned up on CD, they appear to always 

be the album and/or 12" versions?  

I have working copies for both edits that I made based on their music videos as found on Youtube:

• The video for "I Like" got a wide release and is posted on 

Youtube a couple of times: its runtime is spot on 

with the stated 3:22 length of the 45, so I have done a recreation of this version for my library-- but as we all know, sometimes the video edit differed from 

the actual 45/radio version for whatever reason.  Still, I feel pretty good about this matching the 45 even absent of absolute confirmation.

• The video for "I Got the Message" 

(which apparently didn't make it to MTV and is kind of objectively terrible?) is more of a headscratcher, as it's notably shorter than the stated length of the 

single releases (video runs about 3:07).  Also, the audio in the video has a couple of less than stellar edits, which has me thinking it may have been hacked up 

just for the video.  But with nothing else to go on, I made a recreation of this edit but faded about 20 seconds later to match the stated time of the single 

version.  An absolute guess on my part, but the final version does sound pretty good.  I don't have any big qualms in using it, but would like to know how off it 

is from the actual edit.

Anybody have these 45's (or promo 12") lying around and can verify/provide any details?

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EternalStatic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EternalStatic Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: OT: Men Without Hats’ Other 83-84 Singles Posted: 19 February 2024 at 7:34am
	Hi All, Hope someone may be able to provide some info. on the single edits on either of the direct follow-up singles to "The Safety Dance", "I Like" (#84 Hot 100) and "I Got the Message" (Did Not Chart). Both singles had 45 versions that did not match the Rhythm of Youth album versions. According to their respective printed run times, "I Like" ran 3:22 and the 'Short Message' version of "I Got the Message was 3:30 in length". (I am making an assumption here that the shorter version of "Message" on the promo 12" is the same as the A-side of the commercial and promo 45's, but I could be wrong of course as I own none of them.) Does anyone have knowledge of how to perform the edits to recreate these singles, as the handful of times that either have turned up on CD, they appear to always be the album and/or 12" versions? I have working copies for both edits that I made based on their music videos as found on Youtube: • The video for "I Like" got a wide release and is posted on Youtube a couple of times: its runtime is spot on with the stated 3:22 length of the 45, so I have done a recreation of this version for my library-- but as we all know, sometimes the video edit differed from the actual 45/radio version for whatever reason. Still, I feel pretty good about this matching the 45 even absent of absolute confirmation. • The video for "I Got the Message" (which apparently didn't make it to MTV and is kind of objectively terrible?) is more of a headscratcher, as it's notably shorter than the stated length of the single releases (video runs about 3:07). Also, the audio in the video has a couple of less than stellar edits, which has me thinking it may have been hacked up just for the video. But with nothing else to go on, I made a recreation of this edit but faded about 20 seconds later to match the stated time of the single version. An absolute guess on my part, but the final version does sound pretty good. I don't have any big qualms in using it, but would like to know how off it is from the actual edit. Anybody have these 45's (or promo 12") lying around and can verify/provide any details?

EternalStatic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EternalStatic Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 February 2024 at 9:30pm
	Hey folks, a forum member has been able to help me track these down! Thanks to all :-)

EternalStatic Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 28 September 2019 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EternalStatic Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 February 2024 at 4:15pm
	Final assessment if anyone’s interested- “I Like” 45 does match its music video, and the ‘Short Message’ version of “I Got the Message” matches its video as well except that the video fades sooner than the 45, and the remainder of the 45 after the video fade point involves an out-of-sequence edit that cuts back to the first chorus to extend the final chorus by one line just before the 45 fade point. It doesn’t sound bad, but a bit unnecessary. Thanks again for the review copies, folks!