Top 40 Music on CD Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Top 40 Music On Compact Disc > Chat Board
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Guy Mitchell - Heartaches By The Number
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Guy Mitchell - Heartaches By The Number

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>
Author
Message
davidclark View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 17 November 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 25
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Guy Mitchell - Heartaches By The Number
    Posted: 20 June 2006 at 4:32pm
I got sent an mp3 of this song (from England) in mono. It is slightly different from my stereo mix on "Your Hit Parade - 1959". At :26 and 1:02, the stereo has a drum hit that is not oh the mono and Guy's vocal sounds different in places (most noticeable at :40 when in the mono he holds the word "Heartache" longer than in the stereo).

So, do we have another mono/stereo (i.e., 45 vs. stereo LP difference here?). Perhaps a different vocal, or just in parts (it's happened before).

Pat, could you check your mono version on "The Fabulous Fifties - Unforgettable Fifties" and compare with your stereo version?

I could send you (or anyone) an MP3 of this one if you like to compare.

Edited by davidclark
dc1
Back to Top
Brian W. View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 13 October 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 June 2006 at 4:37pm
I fortunately have the "Unforgettable Fifties" CD. Another reason to go after the mono mixes, I'm telling you!
Back to Top
TomDiehl1 View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 13 January 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TomDiehl1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 5:50am
It could also be an england/america difference, as there are quite a few UK singles where the differences are sometimes very small between versions released in the USA...
Live in stereo.
Back to Top
davidclark View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 17 November 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 25
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 8:04am
could be and England/U.S. difference, Tom. The way to find out is if someone has the 45, or if someone who has the heartland "The Fabulous Fifties - Unforgettable Fifties" CD could check it out.
dc1
Back to Top
Brian W. View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 13 October 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 2:56pm
Okay, David, here's what I found:

The stereo version and mono version on the Heartland CD have no take differences.

I have the alternate mono version you're referring to on a New Zealand CD called "Memories are Made of This," and you're right... it at the least is a different mix with some vocal sections from a different take. The drums are not as pronounced in the alternate mix, and there could be an extra guitar in there. The background vocals sound a bit louder. The mix overall sounds denser than the Heartland CD (also more distorted). It may be an entirely different recording. However, the liner notes do say copyright 1959 Sony Music. It's also not impossible that the mono version on the Heartland CD is a fold-down, though there are other stereo tracks on that CD, so I don't know why they'd do that.

So... either could be the single version. We'll have to see if we can obtain an original 45 and verify.

I'm glad you discovered that!
Back to Top
vanmeter View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 28 December 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 0
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote vanmeter Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 3:01pm
I saw this a couple of years ago while tooling around, and thought this might give some insight...

http://www.belle49.freeserve.co.uk/guy/heart.htm
Back to Top
Brian W. View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 13 October 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 3:23pm
Thanks, vanmeter! That's an amazing Guy Mitchell site. I still want to get the original 45, but it sounds from that discography like what I've been calling the alternate mix is actually the original mono 45 version, and what has become the standard version is an alternate take!

However, it says the stereo version was issued as a 33rpm stereo single in 1959... so it can legitimately be called "stereo 45 version."
Back to Top
davidclark View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 17 November 2004
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 25
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 June 2006 at 4:16pm
wow! good goin', guys! I am impressed that we were able to get to the bottom of this. Amazing what fans will put up on the Internet [I even found a...er...um...Mantovani site that answered a question I had about his "Around The World" recordings].

So, seems that two different takes were issued in 1959, the original 45 being the one I discuss above and the latter one becoming the definitive one we've all heard in stereo all these years.

Hopefully someone has the ORIGINAL mono Columbia 4-41476 45 to verify our conclusion.
dc1
Back to Top
Pat Downey View Drop Down
Admin Group
Admin Group


Joined: 01 October 2003
Status: Offline
Points: 1
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pat Downey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 June 2006 at 8:38pm
I have been out of town for a week so it is interesting reviewing the old posts and this one is quite a find! I have the original Columbia 45 4-41476 and this version is not found on any of the domestic cd's listed in the database.
Back to Top
Brian W. View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 13 October 2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 13
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2006 at 2:59am
Thanks, Pat! You saved me having to buy the 45.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.