Aretha Franklin-"Ain’t No Way"

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   This song peaked at #16 on BB in 1968, and was the flip side of her #5 hit, "Since You've Been Gone." "Ain't No Way" does not appear in Pat's database, I'm guessing, due to low peak positions in Cashbox/Record World. I thought it might still be of interest to my friends on the Board, however. I do have a promo 45, where "Ain't No Way" is contained on BOTH sides. The listed (4:12) stock 45 version side, on the promo, says "Complete Version", and actually runs (4:11). The flip, called "Shortened Version", has a listed time of (2:40), but actually runs (2:50). Since Whitburn indicates late MARCH as the peak week for "Since You've Been Gone", and early MAY as the peak week for "Ain't No Way", it does NOT appear to me that all chart appearances for "Ain't No Way" were simply a result of it "piggy-backing" as "Side B" of a double-sided hit. This promo 45 (with BOTH sides stereo; rare for very early 1968) may provide even further evidence of this track being worthy, perhaps, of a separate chart entry. 

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Aretha Franklin-"Ain’t No Way" Posted: 28 June 2006 at 12:21am
	This song peaked at #16 on BB in 1968, and was the flip side of her #5 hit, "Since You've Been Gone." "Ain't No Way" does not appear in Pat's database, I'm guessing, due to low peak positions in Cashbox/Record World. I thought it might still be of interest to my friends on the Board, however. I do have a promo 45, where "Ain't No Way" is contained on BOTH sides. The listed (4:12) stock 45 version side, on the promo, says "Complete Version", and actually runs (4:11). The flip, called "Shortened Version", has a listed time of (2:40), but actually runs (2:50). Since Whitburn indicates late MARCH as the peak week for "Since You've Been Gone", and early MAY as the peak week for "Ain't No Way", it does NOT appear to me that all chart appearances for "Ain't No Way" were simply a result of it "piggy-backing" as "Side B" of a double-sided hit. This promo 45 (with BOTH sides stereo; rare for very early 1968) may provide even further evidence of this track being worthy, perhaps, of a separate chart entry.

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 June 2006 at 5:07am
	Ain't No Way peaked at #71 in Cash box.

Grant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Grant Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 June 2006 at 8:30am
	That "Ain't No Way" ranks at #16 in Billboard I think certainly quazlifies it for a seperate entry. Fantastic track, BTW. It's always been one of my absolute favorites!

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 June 2006 at 10:31am
	I think Pat's long-standing "consensus" system was well thought out, and has served us all well. I do know that many of us, rightly or wrongly, happen to use the Billboard positions as our prime chart peak reference. I only brought the song up for that reason, as well as the fact that some guys (like that bloodhound, Todd) are always "on the prowl" for shorter promo versions of songs that run commercially over 4:00, and that one qualified. The Board seemed to be the right place for me to "get the info out there", that's all. I did not intend to open up an unproductive can of worms here, my good friends.