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    Posted: 20 October 2006 at 8:32pm
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do any of the cds contain the correct 45 version WITHOUT the 0:05 spoken intro?....i edited the front 0:05 of spoken intro (which is not on the commercial 45) and faded the ending 0:03 to come up with the correct 45 version which runs 4:10, even though the 45's label states the run time as 4:15.....

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What is the spoken intro? I don't think I've ever heard it(or remember it). What is said on it? I checked out my version on the Rhino set Omigod! and it doesn't have any spoken intro. It does time at 4:14.
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my cd version starts off with billy saying "this one's called 'at this moment'"....then the audience howles then the piano starts......the 45 version starts cold with the piano and a guy howling in the background........the omigod box set starts cold??....
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The vinyl LP version contains the vocal introduction and the 45 (Rhino 74403) does not contain this introduction and yes as Ed points out the audience applause is :02 to :03 longer on the cd's on which this song appears. To get the appropriate 45 version you can use any of the cd's listed in the database that run (4:12 or 4:13) and simply fade the ending by a few seconds. If you want the LP version, use Eclipse 64620, K-Tel 898 or Razor & Tie 25069.
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I have a version from TM Century that runs 3:28 and starts with piano. Was there a DJ edit, or is this a TM Century edit? This seems to be the version I hear the most on the radio these days... Oh, and this is recorded live.



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To eriejwg:

The 3:28 edit is the original 45 edit when it was released the first time in 1981.

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Thanks, Andrew.

I saw that notation for the 1981 release in the database, but figured that was a studio version, perhaps.

TM Century must have had it in their library from that point in time. Like I said, the local stations these days play what apparently is the 1981 edit since they apparently have the GoldDisc library.
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I think most radio stations play the edit version because no one wants to hear the "drag-out" vocals near the end to the song. I like the edit version much better.
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Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

I saw that notation for the 1981 release in the database, but figured that was a studio version, perhaps.
John, "At This Moment" got brought back from the dead, 5+ years later, due to being repeatedly featured on the then-top-rated 80's TV show starring Michael J. Fox, "Family Ties." That's why the 1986/87 release was on Rhino, normally a re-issue label. The initial 1981 45 release was on a Japanese label that took a brief stab at a U.S. operation, Alfa. Vera's work had long been respected by many within the music business, and he had a loyal, long-standing fan base, established over many years (he'd had some chart successes, from as far back as the late 60's, on Atlantic, both as a solo artist and as half of a respected, controversial-for-its-time "interracial duet team" with Judy Clay.) Among these Billy Vera fans were the Rhino Records founders. They were very aware that his "Billy & The Beaters" live 1981 Alfa LP was already long out-of-print, and felt it would sell well as a catalog item. And with the CD format starting to take off around this time, Rhino licensed those 1981 Alfa masters, and included most of the tracks on that LP on Rhino's repackaged "By Request: Best Of Billy Vera & The Beaters" CD. And when the "Family Ties" thing happened, Rhino responded to it by putting the song out as a 45, giving the label their only "current" #1 hit. Arista noticed Rhino's success, and tried to duplicate this "from the vaults" success with the Monkees, as they owned the group's original Colgems master recordings. I believe it was MTV that was running the orignal show episodes, in honor of its 20th anniversary, which caused a renewed "Monkees buzz." Arista then issued the LP/CD, "Then & Now...The Best Of The Monkees", to capitalize on it. Also, Arista worked VERY hard to try to get Micky, Davy, Michael & Peter to reunite briefly, do a few new recordings for the new collection, with the intention of releasing at least one of them as a new single. But only Micky and Peter would agree. Despite this, on 1987's, "That Was Then, This Is Now", Arista still went ahead and initially listed the artist on this new 45 as "The Monkees". But when both Michael and Davy immediately objected to this, the 45 pressings had to be changed, and now stated the song's artist as "Micky Dolenz And Peter Tork (Of The Monkees)."

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Now that you bring it up Jim, I do remember that song being on Family Ties. Watched that show all the time.

And, I remember the 1986-1987 Monkees era as the station I worked then brought Davy, Peter and Mickey here to a small, 3000 seat theater.
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