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    Posted: 14 March 2007 at 6:24pm
My commercial 45, which is mono, has a listed time of (3:02), but actually runs two seconds longer, timing in at (3:04). I would not normally report only a 2-second time difference, but since the VAST majority of database CDs show run times for this between (2:57) and (3:00), I thought I would. Also, since it was a #1 hit, I thought it might be of above-average interest to those on the Board, so I ended up choosing to note it here anyway. I'd be happy to shoot out a dub of my 45, for anyone willing and skilled enough to compare/contrast it against the shorter database CD versions.
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One thing I'd like to know is the difference between the soundtrack version and the single version (it would appear the difference isn't in the running times).

And are the stereo versions not labeled as "soundtrack versions" or "alternate takes" the correct single version, given what Jim has just posted (noting his 45 is mono and runs a couple seconds longer)? (Which may be what Jim is trying to imply if we were to compare the two versions.)
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Doug, the song was completely re-recorded for single release, and the hit 45 version is an entirely different take from the soundtrack version. The two versions aren't really all that similar, and it is extremely easy to differentiate between the two. I was indeed hoping to inquire as to any possible differences between current stereo database CD appearances that purport to be the "45 version", and my mono (3:04) commercial 45 recording.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Todd Ireland Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2009 at 9:46pm
Just thought I'd bump this thread back up to the front of the pack since Jim's commercial 45 run time info for B.J. Thomas' "Raindrops Keep Fallin' on My Head" was never incorporated in the database. Since CD run times of the hit version range from 2:56-3:01, the actual 45 run time of 3:04 takes on some added significance here.

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Originally posted by sriv94 sriv94 wrote:

One thing I'd like to know is the difference between the soundtrack version and the single version (it would appear the difference isn't in the running times).

Jim is completely correct about this. The 45 version has the opening line "Raindrops are falling on my head" where on the soundtrack version he sings "Raindrops keep falling on my head."

Also, the mono version sounds like a fold-down of the stereo version (not the soundtrack version) to my ears; however, the copy I used from Time Life's "Singers & Songwriters" starts off too slow (by about 2%) and then gradually gains speed until the first vocal begins. The rest of the song sounds like the speed is constant.

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There are three versions of this song, the sountrack version, the stereo hit version, and the mono hit version. The stereo hit version sounds to me exactly like the mono single version until you get to the truphet ending at the end of the song. If you listen to the stereo version you'll hear some slight errors in the truphet playing. You don't hear those errors on the mono 45. The keyboard in that section is slightly different there too so they probably re-did a couple of bars at the ending to make the trumphet "perfect" for the 45.

Anyone want to guess what's on the Complete Scepter Singles CD?

I hear the slight trumphet errors, so apparently it's the stereo version folded down to mono.
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Are any other of the mono versions listed correct?

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Originally posted by Bill Cahill Bill Cahill wrote:

Anyone want to guess what's on the Complete Scepter
Singles CD?

I hear the slight trumphet errors, so apparently it's the stereo version folded
down to mono.

Bill, that would explain why I thought the mono version was just a fold down.
Looks like they really goofed on this disc.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote davidclark Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 October 2012 at 3:33am
Hi Jim,

I hope the offer you made in 2007 to shoot out a 45 dub is still good! WIth
the recent posting of the trumpet being different at the end, combined with
the wildly different timings and OST vs. alternate versions, it time to get to
the bottom of this (as you point out) #1 tune.

thanks.
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For those investigating, if you take either the Real Gone Complete Scepter Singles Collection or the Rhino Greatest Hits and compare it to a stock copy of Raindrops Keep Fallin On My Head, you should hear the difference at the end of the song. I'm not comparing to the trumphet break in the middle of the song but the trumphet ending, right after B. J. Thomas stops singing. The CDs mentioned above do not match the 45,as the trumphet and keyboards are slightly different on the first two bars of the trumphet led ending. The 45 is slightly softer on the trumphet too (on those two bars).

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