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Fetta ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 26 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I remember severals radio stations in New York in the 80's(probably Z100 and WPLJ) playing a version of 99 Red Balloons and 99 Luftballoons which was a mixture of both the German and English versions. Does this exist anywhere on CD or even on vinyl? Was this a special promo piece or something that was done in-house at the radio station. (Each station played the exact same edit).
Anyone know what I am talking about. -Fetta Edited by Fetta |
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I have the white label dj 45 titled 99 Luftballons and it is 100% German on both sides with a stated time of 3:32 but it actually runs 3:51. I have the commercial 45 which has 99 Luftballons on one side in 100% German with a stated running time of 3:32 but it actually runs 3:51. The flip side of the commercial 45 is 99 Red Ballons and is 100 % English with a stated running time of 3:50 and runs 3:51. I have the promo 12" single and it is the same story with 99 Luftballons on one side in 100% German with a stated running time of 3:32 but actually running 3:51, and 99 Red Ballons on the flip side in 100% English. The Album has both versions on it also but they are either 100% English or 100% German and oddly enough the LP has the correct running time printed on the label.
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I remember hearing the mixed language version on KDWB in Minneapolis. Only heard it a few times, but it did make an impression.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 89 |
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You might want to try searching for 45s from other countries. A good site is gemm.com, or ebay.com of course. I was searching for the version of "Rock Me Amadeus" by Falco that was a combination of both the Canadian and American versions. I remembered hearing it on WJGS in Michigan and Casey's Top 40 back in '86, and sure enough, that version was available on a 45 from Europe, although probably very rare.
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cmmmbase ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 May 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Actually, I still encounter the mixed language version of this tune during the course of my work (music researcher for Mediabase 24/7). There is a station or two out there that uses that version. There was also a mixed language version of the Peter Schilling "Major Tom" tune that was out at the same time (I think that was from the 12")
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18 |
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I lived near Washington D.C. at the time "99 Luftballoons" was popular and I clearly remember Top 40 stations in the area playing mixed language versions as the song was in the later stages of its chart run. I have a feeling these mixed language versions were in-house creations though I don't know for sure.
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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While we're on the subject, I bought what I think is a somewhat unusual 45 yesterday. It's Nena's "99 Luftballoons," same catalog number as the standard (34-04108), but with "Just a Dream" as the B-side instead of "99 Luftballoons," which is what Whitburn lists. It's definitely a US commercial pressing, bar code and everything. Has a little "STERLING" in the runout groove.
I don't see another copy of this configuration on Ebay, so it may be fairly unusual. There are a couple promo 45s for "Just a Dream," so I'd think it were a reissue or had "99 Luftballoons" as the B-side, were it not for it having the identical catalog number. |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Brian, I respond to you, despite the fact that Grant may correctly allege I am making no sense!
There are 2 stock 45s here, both Epic 04108: 99 Luftballons (ZSS-171373-1A)/99 Red Ballons (ZSS-171443-1B). That is by FAR the most common commercial 45. The one I believe you just found DID also come out right around the same time as the first one: 99 Luftballons (ZSS-171373-1C)/Just A Dream (ZSS-171374-1D)(listed time 3:31; actually 3:29.) Logically, it would seem that the first 45, with deadwax ending in "A" & "B", came out BEFORE the second one, with deadwax ending in "C" & "D". I believe, for a moment or two, Epic thought the foreign version had "won out" as the undisputed U.S. "hit" version. On that premise, if "Just A Dream" was the flip, novice music fans would now easily know what side their "hit" was on (there was some consumer confusion), instead of the "bother" of having to sample both sides to find what they'd been hearing. But the brakes got put on that pretty quick by THREE things: 1-The in-house "German/English" mixes made the English version "of interest" again. 2-Also, I can confirm there were probably 20% of U.S. Top 40 stations that bypassed the German version ENTIRELY, and played NOTHING but the English-only version. (My station almost always "followed the pack", but on this one, we didn't; we never played the German version.) And, 3-Epic was now thinking follow-up. Europe favored the slow ballad, "Let Me Be Your Pirate", but Epic U.S. believed more in the Blondie-ish, up-tempo "Just A Dream." Why put the follow-up on back of 99 Luftballons? Who'll buy it then? So, some got out, but they ultimately went back to "Plan A." I also have 2 different promo 45s for "99 Luftballons". One is exactly like the first stock copy I described, on both sides. The other has "99 Luftballons" on BOTH sides; no "99 Red Ballons" appears at all. Finally, "Just A Dream", in it's "A-side" release (Epic 04440)(ZSS-171692-1A)(listed and actual time 3:29) bubbled under at #102 on 5/5/84. Stock flip was "Rette Mich" (ZSS-171693-1B, listed time 3:17.) Whew! Edited by jimct |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Hmm, my dead wax is ZSS-171373-1A for "Luftballoons" and ZSS-171374-1A for "Just a Dream." (That's referring to my new Luftballoons/Just a Dream 45, of course.) And a friend of mine from New Jersey said his local station ALWAYS played "Red Balloons" as well. Edited by Brian W. |
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