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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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The US 45 (EMI NR-50283) has a printed time of 3:59 and a designation of "Edit".
I have this edit on:
I have the LP version on Now That's What I Call Music 18 (Virgin EMI PolyGram UK). Here are instructions for creating the edit: Remove the first 6 beats of the song - about 4.6 seconds. Edit on the first guitar sound, two beats before the downbeat. Put a 16-beat fade from about 3:40 (on the word "water") to about 3:52 (background singer sings "must") of the LP version. Your mixdown will run about 3:48; the printed time on Cool Rock is 3:51. |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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My promo CD single info for this song confirms Ron's earlier finding, that the listed (3:59) timing for the short version of this song is indeed longer than the actual time:
Roxette-"It Must Have Been Love" (DPRO-4515) 1-Single Version (listed 3:59; actual 3:50) 2-LP Version (listed 4:17; actual 4:19) |
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
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On my TM Century CD, the first note sounds like it's just barely clipped a little bit. Is this just a problem with my copy, or do all copies of the "Single Version" sound like they might have slightly cut the first note?
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Bringing up an old thread, as I was looking into this song. Unlike Aaron, I have the single version on "Cool Rock", so I thought I'd see if it's clipped there, too. It may be ever so slightly clipped so I'm sending a short sample to Aaron for his observation.
Jim has a 3rd source - the promo CD single so maybe he can check that, too. Keep in mind that where they were trying to edit, there are hi hats going on before and after the edit point, so while the spot may not clip the snare drum, it might have caught a hi hat midway. It's really hard for me to tell. I mean, it's pretty close to not being clipped. Just not 100% sure. Maybe Aaron can chime in after he gets my short smaple. |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Aaron indicates that the version on "Cool Rock" has the exact same slight intro clipping as what's on the TM Century CD. Unless Jim finds the promo CD is different, we both feel that the single edit was probably clipped, and that this is not a factor of the specific CDs that have included this version.
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NightAire ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I played this on cart from either the 45 or the CD single when it was new, and I remember the start being a bit "abrupt." I would agree the original single was slightly clipped at the beginning, making these singles accurate.
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Here's an interesting discovery for "It Must Have Been Love". There's the single edit (3:50), the album version (4:19) AND what I just discovered: a version that's 4:40.
I noticed this when I was choosing the spanish version of the song for the CDRs I'm currently making. I have the spanish version on 2 CDs - one's a typical short version (3:46), but the other is about a minute longer at 4:40! It made me wonder if an English version at 4:40 exists. So I checked discogs and found these 2 examples which would indicate that it does: https://www.discogs.com/Roxette-It-Must-Have-Been-Love/relea se/4796605 -Italy, vinyl, 12", 4:48, 1990 https://www.discogs.com/Roxette-It-Must-Have-Been-Love/relea se/6945993 -Europe, vinyl, 10", 4:45, but the year is 1992, and it's labeled "It Must Have Been Love (L.A. version 1992)"!! If there's an L.A. version recorded in 1992, then what's the other (1990) version that also clocks in at about the same time? Was there a 12" English-language version at 4:45-ish? Currently, on my computer I only have the English single version and this long Spanish version. So I have to get out and load up the English album version to see if this 4:40-ish version is simply longer than the LP version or a different edit. And I wonder if this "L.A. 1992 version" is a different recording altogether. Does anyone know anything about this? BTW, for me, "It Must Have Been Love" is one of the best ballads of the 1990s! Such a great melody, especially that chorus. |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Oh and I forgot to mention that the spanish version of "It Must Have Been Love" (that has this LONGER 4:40 version) comes from their import CD "Baladas En Espanol".
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Bellenger1981 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 July 2019 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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EdisonLite,
Roxette originally recorded "It Must Have Been Love" in 1987 as "It Must Have Been Love (Christmas for the Broken-Hearted)" in hopes of having a Christmas hit in Germany. The idea was to record a Christmas song for exposure, hoping to expand the duo's success beyond its native Sweden. This 1987 version is the original studio recording of the song. In the end, this '87 version was not even released in Germany, only released in Sweden, peaking at No. 4 there. It can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxjaqBpiy-8 In 1990, "It Must Have Been Love" was remixed (notice the addition of electric guitar and heavier drums) for the "Pretty Woman" film and soundtrack. This is the version that became a worldwide smash. Roxette used Marie's original 1987 vocals, except that "it's a hard Christmas Day" became "it's a hard winter's day" in order to take the Christmas reference away. (Also, the echo on "touched" is removed in the 1990 version). In 1992, Roxette re-recorded "It Must Have Been Love" in Los Angeles. This country-inspired version was released on their 1992 studio/live album, "Tourism". The version on "Tourism" starts with a live recording from Santiago, Chile and mixes in to the 1992 L.A. version (which starts at about 2:03) for a total running time of 7:10. This version can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tZGRtx6Qx8 I think that the version (4:48) on the Italy 12" from 1990 is simply a typo, as I imagine that it is the 1990 album version (probably 4:18), as it shows the "Pretty Woman" soundtrack on the back sleeve. Nonethless, it could be a mistake and actually feature the original 1987 "Christmas for the Broken-Hearted" (4:48) version. (I would bet on the typo). In 1996, Roxette re-recorded "It Must Have Been Love" in Spanish ("No Se Si Es Emor") for their Spanish- language album, "Baladas en Espanol". I am unaware of a shorter (3:46) version of "It Must Have Been Love" ("No Se Si Es Amor"). The version on "Baladas en Espanol" clocks in around 4:41. It can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIVfqn29lI In May 2015, "It Must Have Been Love" was reissued in Europe on 10" vinyl (and as a digital EP) by Parlophone in order to celebrate its 25th anniversary. This reissue featured an edit of the 1992 "Tourism" version, chopping off the beautiful piano intro (which is mixed in with the audience cheering on the "Tourism" version) and starting with just the harmonica, creating a new 4:45 "L.A. Version 1992" edit. I remember being disappointed when this EP was released that it did not feature the full version with the piano intro (with the audience mixed out of this piano intro, of course). This "L.A. Version 1992" can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oelHPAcLlkQ For the record, I love all versions of this song. I think that it would have been interesting to have seen this "L.A. Version 1992" promoted as a single to country radio way back then (starting with the piano intro, with the audience mixed out, of course, and faded early). I hope that helps. Jason Edited by Bellenger1981 |
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Jason Bellenger
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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WOW, Jason, that was REALLY helpful! Thanks for explaining the history of the song. Very interesting.
I listened to the 1987 'Christmas for the Broken Hearted version' on the Youtube link you provided. What I find interesting is that track (of 4:44) is quite different than the long spanish-language track that was used on Baladas. Besides the 1st 4 seconds of the 1987 version being removed from the Spanish version (the hi-hats-only part), the 1987 version is also missing the electric guitar in the intro which provides the basic melody in the intro. (Just pointing out 1 example). So are you saying this spanish version is the 1st 4:40-ish version to use this exact backing track - and going out to the 4:40 point? I'm still trying to figure out where the 4:40 track (the instrumental part, not the spanish vocals obviously) came from. Did it first appear here? Wasn't everything else 4:19 or less (besides the orginal christmas mix)? |
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