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 Topic: alias "more than words can say"Posted: 21 November 2007 at 3:46pm |
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1990 - MORE THAN WORDS CAN SAY (dj copies of this 45 ran (3:39) not (3:35) as stated on the label and (3:52); commercial copies vinyl singles were all (3:39) but the cassette single runs (3:52))
has anyone looked into what the differnces are between the cassingle version (ie lp version) that runs 3:52 and the 3:39 vinyl 45 version.....is it an edit or a remix or a fade....anybody? Edited by edtop40 |
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:05pm |
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Mine seems to fade out at 3:52.
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:15pm |
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My promo CD single (DPRO 04637) has the following:
1-(Undescribed version) (listed 3:53; actual 3:52) 2-Single Remix (listed 3:35; actual 3:40) Ed, since I'm POSITIVE you already own the Cassingle/LP Version, if you think the (3:39) vinyl 45 version would be the same version as the Cut 2, (3:40) "Single Remix" of my promo CD single, I'd be happy to shoot it out to you for your analysis. Edited by jimct |
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:19pm |
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The 3:52 version I have, just checked, is from the Alias CD (LP version)
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 4:34pm |
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jim....please do....i will compare the remix to the cassingle/lp version....
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 5:27pm |
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there was no 7" vinyl for this tune that I know of...
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Posted: 21 November 2007 at 6:44pm |
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As I recall, the "single remix" wasn't a remix at all, but merely a crossfaded edit shortening the guitar solo.
Can anyone confirm? Andy |
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Posted: 23 November 2007 at 2:56pm |
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can anyone confirm cmmmbase's hunch that there was NO 7" vinyl 45 issued for this song....jim....do you have a commercial or promo vinyl 45 for this track???...i'm reviewing the file you sent as i type this....
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Posted: 23 November 2007 at 3:10pm |
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jim...it looks like these tracks are the same, to my ears, but the single remix is really just an edit......the songs are the same until the 2:21 mark, and then the guitars solo is edited down......it looks like they edited out about 0:12 of the guitar solo from 2:21 to 2:37(on the lp version).....the vocals start again at the 2:37 mark on the lp version while this remix version starts the vocals at 2:25....this would make the track tie out to a run time of 3:40.....question is.....did this ever appear as a vinyl 45??
i can't seam to locate a vinyl 45 anywhere....i checked ebay, music stack and gemm.com.....with no listing for a usa commercial vinyl 45 issued as EMI 50324..... Edited by edtop40 |
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Posted: 23 November 2007 at 3:28pm |
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Ed, my honest recollection is exactly the same as Chuck's - no stock 45 issued for Alias, but I'm far from positive about it. I DO remember that EMI was perhaps the FIRST major label to stop issuing stock 45s, and to offer "cassingles only", so this lends even further credibility to Chuck's belief here. I don't have organized boxes for promo 45s after 1989 (there were only a few of them issued), so I don't know where I may have filed them right now. Ed, whereas you embraced the "cassingle" format from the start (and thank goodness you did!!), I totally detested them from the very start, and my "stock single" collecting efforts stopped right on a dime, at that point. But Pat's stock/promo 45 notations are quite specific for "More Than Words Can Say", and, obviously, he's usually pretty accurate with them; I just know I didn't provide those details to him. Perhaps Pat's just taking some well-deserved time off over this holiday weekend, and he could perhaps confirm his current 45 song notes when he gets back on-line.
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