Steel Breeze - You Don’t Want Me Anymore

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   I'm wondering if there might be a 45 mix and LP mix for this song.  The promo 45 I'm listening to has two versions.  One side has a printed time of (3:23) and actual time of (3:25).  The runout groove has PB-13283-D-2s.  This mix has more reverb on the opening synth and the drums have lots of reverb.  I don't know if this mix is on CD.

The other side has a printed and actual time of (3:27), and the runout groove reads PB-13283-A-4s.  This side has less reverb on the opening synth and the drums are relatively dry.  This mix appears on the Lost 45s of the 70s and 80s CD.

Can anyone help out on this one?

Edited by aaronk

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Steel Breeze - You Don’t Want Me Anymore Posted: 24 April 2008 at 6:24pm
	I'm wondering if there might be a 45 mix and LP mix for this song. The promo 45 I'm listening to has two versions. One side has a printed time of (3:23) and actual time of (3:25). The runout groove has PB-13283-D-2s. This mix has more reverb on the opening synth and the drums have lots of reverb. I don't know if this mix is on CD. The other side has a printed and actual time of (3:27), and the runout groove reads PB-13283-A-4s. This side has less reverb on the opening synth and the drums are relatively dry. This mix appears on the Lost 45s of the 70s and 80s CD. Can anyone help out on this one? Edited by aaronk

abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 April 2008 at 11:56pm
	I apparently feel there is the difference between the 45 and the LP. The 45 has the thick sound in the bottom end, especially.And the electric guitar and the synthesizer are featured on the 45.The matrix number in the runout groove of my stock commercial 45 copy is "PB-13283-A-4s"(running time (3:27).The actual LP running time is (3:27),too. Great detection.I'm happy...thanks to aaronk.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2008 at 1:17am
	Abagon, thanks for your added info. Is it my understanding that you're hearing a difference between the LP and 45? I had to correct my post above, because I had the two mix descriptions switched. The version you have on your stock 45 running (3:27) is the one that I have on CD. The one with more reverb on the promo 45 is still a mystery. It might be exclusive to the promo 45. Edited by aaronk

80smusicfreak Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote 80smusicfreak Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2008 at 5:36am
	Have loved Steel Breeze since the first time I heard "You Don't Want Me Anymore" on top 40 radio in the Summer/Fall of '82. (Yet another truly "lost" '80s classic that you folks here have been bringing up lately!) For the record, the band originally released the song independently in 1981, before signing to RCA. And unlike RCA 13283, that original indie 45 came w/ a picture sleeve, and featured a different B-side (not "Who's Gonna Love You Tonight")... About a year ago, I was searching eBay when I accidentally stumbled across a fellow selling a copy of that obscure 45, as I wasn't previously aware of its existence. I don't normally collect vinyl, but I couldn't pass it up - and w/ no competition, I won it for a very decent price. :-) Alas, it's currently packed away in storage, so I don't have it right here in front of me as I type this, or else I'd give more specific details. Although I won't swear to it, I believe it's a different mix/recording from the later RCA 45/LP... But because I knew it was so rare - I'd be shocked if more than 50 or 100 copies still exist today - after receiving it from the seller, I quizzed him as to where/how he'd obtained it. Turned out he was the original owner, and had bought it directly from the band at a show on the west coast (they were from Sacramento) while they were still basically unknowns in '81 or early '82. He also said that while he had it listed on eBay, he even heard from the ex-wife of one of the original band members, who apparently had similar questions, lol... But shhh, don't tell Joel Whitburn or Tim Neely - that original indie 45 of this "power pop" classic isn't mentioned/listed in any of their books... ;-)

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2008 at 6:27am
	I have Steel Breeze's self-titled CD (Renaissance 0209), which is the parent album for "You Don't Want Me Anymore". I would think if a dedicated LP mix exists, it'd be on this CD. Later tonight, I'll compare the self-titled disc to the Lost 45's of the '70s and '80s CD (Varese Vintage 5955) and see if I can detect a difference between the two.

abagon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote abagon Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2008 at 8:49am
	I'm sorry. I was a little confused. I was misunderstanding because there is the different tone quality strongly between my stock 45 and the LP. But I think that both consist of the same arrangement.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2008 at 10:01pm
	Ok, I've now compared "You Don't Love Me Anymore" on Steel Breeze's self-titled CD to the Lost 45's of the '70s and '80s disc and I agree there's a mix difference between the two. The self-titled CD contains reverb throughout the song, which is most noticable on the drums and vocals, while the Lost 45's disc is a drier mix. Perhaps the most discernable mix difference occurs roughly between the :15-:25 mark... On the Lost 45's CD, both an electric guitar and a rhythm guitar are prominently heard during this ten second passage, whereas at the same point on the self-titled CD the electric guitar is heard but the rhythm guitar is buried in the mix at a nearly inaudible level. Also, the self-titled CD runs 3:23 and the song's pitch is approximately 2.5 seconds faster than on the Lost 45's disc, which runs 3:25. So in summary, I'm concluding that "You Don't Love Me Anymore" on Steel Breeze's self-titled CD is an LP mix and it matches the side of Aaron's promo 45 single running 3:25. The Lost 45's of the '70s and '80s CD is the 45 mix and matches Aaron's promo 45 side running 3:23. Good ears, Aaron!

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 92	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 April 2008 at 11:57pm
	Good work to Todd & Abagon, too! I appreciate you helping figure things out between the two mixes.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2008 at 5:56am
	Though a run time isn't listed, on the Barry Scott site, Steel Breeze is listed as a 'single edit.' Lost 45's - Vol. 1

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 26 April 2008 at 6:18am
	The Lost 45's rear tray insert also states "single edit", so this may have been the Varese label's way of communicating to consumers that the single mix was used for the compilation. It's definitely not an "edit" in the literal sense. Edited by Todd Ireland