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Kool And The Gang - "Too Hot" |
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Not sure if this has been fixed yet in the database, but my 1955-1996 copy of Pat's book has the (5:04) length entries as being "LP version". I believe they should be "LP length".
My 45 (De-Lite DE-802, 1979) has a printed and an actual time of (3:48). The 45 has a fade that starts at 3:32. It's a second or two shorter than a 32-beat fade, but that's a pretty good approximation for it. I like the sound of the LP version on Mercury's CD Celebration: The Best Of Kool & The Gang (1979-1987). (Apparently, so did the Time-Life people; the version on Body Talk - Just The Two Of Us is digitally identical to this, and Sounds Of The Eighties - 1980 is just a level change.) If you want to fade the Celebration CD to match the 45 fade points, put a 32-beat fade from 3:31.9 to 3:50.2. |
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mstgator ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 September 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I believe this would be one of those cases where the 45 is simply an early fade of the LP, but because there's more than a minute difference between the two, Pat uses "version" instead of "length".
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eric_a ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Then again, that is one long fade. The LP version fades for what seems like 45 or 60 seconds and may be even longer. |
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The song Too Hot on the original vinyl LP runs longer than the version on the CD of the album, not that this makes any difference for this database.
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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I try to collect all Top 40 music on CD in their exact original vinyl 45 and LP lengths, so I would certainly like to see the original vinyl LP run time of "Too Hot" mentioned in the database. Could you please provide that run time for us, Grant, so we know how much sooner the LP version on CD fades out compared to its vinyl LP counterpart?
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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A further look at the database shows CD run times for the LP version ranging from 4:54 to 5:03. This would make knowing the actual vinyl LP run time all the more helpful.
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The LP listed time is 5:05.
The actual LP time on this particular pressing is exactly 4:55. I once had an LP pressing and a cassette that ran two seconds longer. |
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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Thanks for the info. The good news is, your vinyl LP run times all fall within the LP time range on CD.
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I recall the original "Ladies Night" CD cutting off a bit shorter and running slightly faster. I was so PO'ed that it wasn't even close to the original vinyl that I literally threw it in the garbage!
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abagon ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 01 March 2008 Location: Japan Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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The database indicates (...; the actual LP running time is (4:55) not (5:05) as stated on the record label)
My "Ladies Night" LP's actual running time is (5:01). (Delite DSR-9513, the listed time "5:05"). My LP is :06 longer than The Hits Man's LP. --abagon |
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