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crapfromthepast 
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 Posted: 28 July 2008 at 6:22pm |
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Oops...good catch, Yah Shure.
Our reel-to-reel decks had settings for 7-1/2 IPS, 15 IPS and 30 IPS, and for some reason I always associated cassettes with half the lowest setting on the reel-to-reel. Well, 1-7/8 IPS would explain why they don't sound so good... |
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crapfromthepast
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Posted: 30 July 2008 at 9:16am |
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If you're still checking the cassette versions, I thought of a nice way for you to check the pitch.
The song is played with a live drummer playing to a click track, and the tempo is exactly 136.0 BPM throughout, with no drifts. It's the same 136.0 BPM on both Hot Hits Vol. 7 (4:56) and The Network 40 Tuneup #38 (4:36). If you have the album version on cassette, that should be exactly 136.0 BPM. I think the single should be 136.0 BPM as well, but that's what we're trying to determine, and we should probably use the LP version as another data point. BPMs are easy to check with a stopwatch and a counter, just make sure to start the counter at "0" when the stopwatch is 0:00. Since this song is played to a click track, use the longest stretch you can to do your counting - this increases the accuracy. (Don't try this if the song doesn't use a drum machine or a click track - the live drummer variations in tempo can easily be +/- a few BPMs throughout the song, and your measured BPM will depend on your start/stop points - not good.) There is software that does this automatically for .WAV or .MP3 files, but I only trust its numbers for drum machines or click track songs. I use this free one - http://www.mixmeister.com/bpmanalyzer/bpmanalyzer.asp It gives resolution down to 1/100 of a BPM, but that's a little excessive. I trust it to 1/10 of a BPM, and I manually check afterwards to see if there is any drift from the beginning to the end of the song. Drifts of 0.1 BPM are common, drifts of 0.3 BPM are not unheard of, and an occasional jump of about 1 BPM turns up here and there, most likely due to use of a different tape machine during a particular part of the recording process. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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edtop40
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Posted: 28 May 2009 at 4:52pm |
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after reviewing this track further, i've come to the realization that my cassingle runs 4:51 in length and is identical to the full length cd version just faded out to the 4:51 mark....the timing differences are because of the pitch on my cassette player and NOT the songs actual pitch...
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prisdeej
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Posted: 31 January 2025 at 4:58pm |
I just gave this AC Edit a quick listen some 17 years after this was posted. The vocals differ on the fade. Discogs has no entry for this 1-track AC Edit promo. Edited by prisdeej |
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cmmmbase
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Posted: 31 January 2025 at 5:58pm |
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The cd promo I referenced 17 years ago has a catalog number
of Charisma PRCD 050. Edited by cmmmbase |
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AndrewChouffi
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Posted: 04 February 2025 at 5:41am |
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I think I might have a mislabeled file in my archive.
Could someone kindly send me a rip of both tracks of the actual promo CD PRCD 047, please? (PM if you don't have my email addy.) It's a great record. Thanks! Andy |
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AndrewChouffi
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Posted: 05 February 2025 at 10:35am |
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Kinda got to the bottom of this courtesy of ToddIreland &
prisdeej sending me files... The [Edit] from PRCD 046 is simply an early fade of the [Album Version] of PRCD 046, while the [AC Edit] of PRCD 050 contains the full fade of the [Album version] but edits out the instrumental breakdown with a second of unique audio (or perhaps a crossfade) and an out-of- sequence edit. The Network 40 Tuneup #38 version is the same as the [Edit] on PRCD 046 (which is to say it's simply an early fade of the [Album Version]), not the [AC Edit] as implied upthread. Getting these actual files confirmed a lot for me; namely that the track I had in my "archive" labeled [Edit] from the 'promo CD' was actually the [AC Edit] from PRCD 050 and NOT the [Edit] from PRCD 046. Thanks Paul & Dave! Andy Edited by AndrewChouffi |
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eriejwg
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Posted: 05 February 2025 at 11:44am |
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So that I have my files labeled correctly, can someone send
me the edit from PRCD 46? |
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