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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
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(I found two previous threads for this song - here and here. This post includes more info than those.)
At the time, in 1978-79, "Le Freak" was the biggest selling single in the history of Atlantic Records. So odd, then, that good sounding CD versions of this track are so hard to come by! First up, the LP version. I dug out my LP copy of C'est Chic, Atlantic SD 19209, where "Le Freak" has a printed time of 5:23 and an actual time of 5:24. I have the LP version on these CDs:
Next, the 45 edit: I have the commercial 45, which I bought while the song was #1 in December 1978. (One of the first two 45s I ever bought, along with "YMCA".) It's Atlantic 3519, matrix number "ST-A-35737-1" with a very faint "SP" next to it, printed time of 3:30, actual time of 3:33. The 45 runs about 0.6% faster than the true LP, which is well within the range that I'd expect, given the speed tolerances on the late '70s analog tape machines. The fade begin on the second "freak out" in the last chorus on the word "out" at 3:17, and is a 32-beat fade that last until 3:33. The fade starts abruptly and has a long tail, so on the radio a DJ would fade it much earlier than the 3:33 point. Nile, Bernard and Tony never played with a click track, so I can't give you exact BPM values. Actually, I've never come across anyone else who could play that precisely WITHOUT a click track! Basically, the 45 cuts the chorus in half each time and fades early. I tried to figure out the edit points, but that didn't work out too well because the first half of the chorus sounds exactly like the second half. (Brilliant song structure, actually - the chorus is a chant!) The first appearance of this song on CD was on:
The next time it appeared on CD was on:
Buy The Disco Years, Vol. 3: Boogie Fever (Rhino R2 70274, 1992). Fade it manually from 3:17 to 3:33 if you want to match the 45, or enjoy the extra 45 seconds if you want the extra stuff from the LP version that's after the 45 fade. The track sounds astoundingly good on this CD. All the other CD versions that I've seen are either based on a terrible LP version analog transfer (1991's Dance Dance Dance), or on a version that has dreadful tape drag (1988's Dancin' The Night Away). I know that Rhino put out a Bill Inglot-mastered Chic collection in the early '00s, but I don't have it. In general, I tend to dislike such recent masterings, due to the infamous "loudness wars". And there you go. This should certainly put this issue to rest! Edited by crapfromthepast |
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eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
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Ron:
I have a digital copy via Napster from Les Plus Grands Success De Chic (Chic's Greatest Hits), runs 3:31 and sounds very nice. Worth checking out. |
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sriv94 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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And my 45 version from the "Atlantic Records 50th Anniversary" CD also sounds very good (no tape drag and as far as I know the edits are correct).
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Crap, you should get the C'est Chic album on the Atlantic CD. It's been out there since 1991, and easy to find. There's no need to hang on to your needle drop.
I also have the Atlantic 45 that I bought in December 1978, when the record was so popular that record stores couldn't keep it in stock! It really annoys me when CD after CD comp comes out that has it running longer than the 45 did. I only have one CD where it's correct, the History Of Black Music on Atlantic, produced by Sylvia Rhone. |
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Anybody know if the Digital 45 just released on iTunes is the proper "45" version (right speed, no tape drag)???
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Paul Haney ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 April 2005 Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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Well, I went ahead and purchased the song off of iTunes and, to my ears, it's the correct "45" version...correct speed and none of the dreaded "tape drag"! |
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KentT ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Some of the Atlantic 45 pressings have tape drag. My original I bought new in 1979 has the tape drag. It was a Specialty pressing mastered at Atlantic by DK (Dennis King)
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I turn up the good and turn down the bad!
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The Hits Man ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Rhino just issued the 45 master of this song on iTunes. It matches my 45 exactly.
I actually prefer the 45, and will take historically technical accuracy over any brightening of the sound. |
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Hopefully it will be available in FLAC format on Rhino's website soon. They haven't actually added any new downloads in a few weeks. |
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LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
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I think the same transfer used on Rhino's Disco Years Vol. 3 was also utilized on Rhino's 1999 The Disco Box 4-disc box set.
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