Stevie Wonder "You Are the Sunshine..."

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   The database contains a note saying Stevie Wonder's "You Are the Sunshine of My Life" runs 3:00 on both the 45 and the LP.  However, all versions running 2:50 or so are listed as "45 version" while all the versions running close to 3:00 are listed as "LP Version."  What is the actual running time of the 45?  I didn't find anything under a search.

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Brian W. Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian W. Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Stevie Wonder "You Are the Sunshine..." Posted: 06 April 2010 at 12:58pm
	The database contains a note saying Stevie Wonder's "You Are the Sunshine of My Life" runs 3:00 on both the 45 and the LP. However, all versions running 2:50 or so are listed as "45 version" while all the versions running close to 3:00 are listed as "LP Version." What is the actual running time of the 45? I didn't find anything under a search.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 191	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 April 2010 at 2:54pm
	I would presume all of the database CDs with a "45 version" are faded early. The LP version and 45 version are definitely different mixes.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 84	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 April 2010 at 7:10pm
	So, the only way to get that missing 8-10 seconds is pick up the 45?

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 191	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 06 April 2010 at 9:20pm
	This is only speculation on my part, since I've not actually heard the 45. There may also be more than one 45 length, as we've seen in several other cases.

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2010 at 8:07am
	Running time of the DJ 45 is 3:00 for the stereo side and 2:59 for the mono side. The difference is due to a slighly sooner fade out on the mono side. My DJ copy has a very low fade out on both sides that goes on longer than most fade outs. My speculation is that when the single version was mastered for CD or maybe even compilation vinyl albums they just faded it out sooner.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 June 2013 at 5:12pm
	i think if you use the cd's that have the 45 version as the base and tack on the ending of the lp version, you should be able to get pretty close to replicating the proper vinyl 45 length and version.....my commercial 45 runs 2:57..the etching in the run out groove is T-54232-619-32-02A'...the T-54232 has a line running through it...
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 191	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 June 2013 at 10:30pm
	Ed, this is a good theory, but the 45 version is a different mix. I think I tried this once and didn't get good results.
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The Hits Man Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 04 February 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote The Hits Man Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 June 2013 at 4:19pm
	Ed, it can't be done because the 45 has added drums/percussion and horns.


edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 June 2013 at 5:57pm
	really....i understand that the 45 version is a different mix than the lp version but i listened to the last 0:10 of the vinyl compared to the lp version and they sounded the same.....let me give another listen tmw am when maybe i'm not as tired.....be back tmw...
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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 June 2013 at 6:37am
	ok, i just gave the song another listen this morning.....well....i think i may have to disagree with both of you, aaron and hitsman.....the mix IS The same except for the horn overdubs.......the cd lp version i have from the 2 disc import collection titled 'definitive collection' is the same as the vinyl 45, except for the horn overdubs which run throughout the whole song....BUT...the percussion parts (drums & cymbals) are there.....and the last 0:09 of the vinyl 45, in my opinion, can be tacked on to the end of the cd 45 version, effectively re-creating the vinyl 45 version.........can i ask which cd's you are comparing the vinyl 45 to as to think it can't be done?.....mark, do you want to take a crack seeing if my hunch is right? Edited by edtop40
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