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   I think you might be onto something with the soundtrack info.  The Message In A Bottle soundtrack was released January 29, 1999, five months before Edwin McCain's Messenger LP was released.  Online, the soundtrack labels the song "Radio Mix LP / Message Mix."  Is it possible that the "New Mix" was created for the Edwin McCain full-length CD for its June 15, 1999, release date?

To summarize, here are the contents of the two promo CDs:

PRCD 8908

1. Radio Mix (listed 4:00; actual 4:06)

2. non-described version (listed 4:38; actual 4:37)

PRCD 8967

1. New Mix (Clearmountain Mix) (listed 4:00; actual 4:07)

2. Original Mix Edit (listed 4:00; actual 4:06)

The non-described version, Radio Mix, and Original Mix Edit are all the same mix.  The latter two are digitally identical on the promo CDs, while the non-described version is a longer, unedited version.  (The edit in the shorter version occurs at 3:54, and it's faded sooner than the full 4:38 version, so it's not merely an early fade as was stated earlier in the thread.)

One way to tell the mixes apart is that there is an additional layer of strings on the intro of the original mix--a constant note held throughout the entire intro.

So, my guess is that the "New Mix" truly was a new mix at the time, which was included on the Messenger album, although I don't have this on CD to verify.  On Spotify, all the versions currently available for streaming are the Clearmountain mix but running 4:33.  I didn't A/B these to see if it's an early fade, edit, or both.  In any case, it's the original mix (Radio Mix, Original Mix Edit, non-described version) that is unique compared to what's available on CD.  The Best Of Edwin McCain CD, the compilation Stop Handgun Violence, and presumably the Messenger CD, all have the Clearmountain mix.  Pat's database currently has no notation for Message In A Bottle, but does this CD really contain the earlier mix?

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 June 2021 at 11:17am
	I think you might be onto something with the soundtrack info. The Message In A Bottle soundtrack was released January 29, 1999, five months before Edwin McCain's Messenger LP was released. Online, the soundtrack labels the song "Radio Mix LP / Message Mix." Is it possible that the "New Mix" was created for the Edwin McCain full-length CD for its June 15, 1999, release date? To summarize, here are the contents of the two promo CDs: PRCD 8908 1. Radio Mix (listed 4:00; actual 4:06) 2. non-described version (listed 4:38; actual 4:37) PRCD 8967 1. New Mix (Clearmountain Mix) (listed 4:00; actual 4:07) 2. Original Mix Edit (listed 4:00; actual 4:06) The non-described version, Radio Mix, and Original Mix Edit are all the same mix. The latter two are digitally identical on the promo CDs, while the non-described version is a longer, unedited version. (The edit in the shorter version occurs at 3:54, and it's faded sooner than the full 4:38 version, so it's not merely an early fade as was stated earlier in the thread.) One way to tell the mixes apart is that there is an additional layer of strings on the intro of the original mix--a constant note held throughout the entire intro. So, my guess is that the "New Mix" truly was a new mix at the time, which was included on the Messenger album, although I don't have this on CD to verify. On Spotify, all the versions currently available for streaming are the Clearmountain mix but running 4:33. I didn't A/B these to see if it's an early fade, edit, or both. In any case, it's the original mix (Radio Mix, Original Mix Edit, non-described version) that is unique compared to what's available on CD. The Best Of Edwin McCain CD, the compilation Stop Handgun Violence, and presumably the Messenger CD, all have the Clearmountain mix. Pat's database currently has no notation for Message In A Bottle, but does this CD really contain the earlier mix? Edited by aaronk
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promojunkie Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 08 August 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote promojunkie Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 June 2021 at 12:29pm
	Hey Aaron, Thanks for distinguishing the mixes. So If I understand, the radio mix and non described version from PRCD 8908 match the Original mix edit from PRCD 8967. I have PRCD 8908 and those versions are definitely a bit different then the version on messenger cd which I have as well. So we are speculating the mix on messenger and the new mix (clearmountain) on the promo cd are the same mix (except for an edit or fade on the promo cd)? hope that made sense. Edited by promojunkie
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 June 2021 at 12:57pm
	Yeah, I don't have the Messenger or Message In A Bottle CDs to compare, so I'm having to speculate. Based on the promo CDs, there are two basic mixes: 1. Original 4:37 mix - possibly on Message In A Bottle soundtrack - edited to 4:06 on promo CD singles 2. Clearmountain mix - possibly on Messenger album - presumably edited to 4:07 on promo CD single (PRCD 8967)
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