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sriv94 
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 Topic: "Radar Love" - Golden EarringPosted: 07 May 2013 at 12:25pm |
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Question for the class. Have a friend who indicates that the stock 45 of "Radar Love" ran (3:44) (which might be the version found on the K-Tel CD 70s Heavy Hitters: Arena Rockers 1970-74), and that the commonly found (5:02)ish version was the B-side of the stock single.
Is he right? Or could that have been a different promo or even a reissue? |
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Yah Shure
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Posted: 07 May 2013 at 2:14pm |
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Doug, the original U.S. stock 45 (MCA-40202) was listed at 5:01, with "Just Like Vince Taylor" on the flip. Though it carried the MCA catalog number, the label itself was the milk chocolate-colored Track label. My copy dates from '76-'77, by which time MCA had replaced the brown Track label with the then-current black rainbow label, still under the MCA-40202 catalog number, 5:01 list, and "...Vince Taylor" still on the rear side. In other words, the only thing different was the label design. The single was eventually shifted to MCA's 45 reissue series under a new catalog number (MCA-60181), but the A/B-side pairing and timings remained unchanged (still 5:01 for "Radar.")
When Golden Earring Live was released in 1977, MCA issued a 4:42 edit of the 12:00 live "Radar Love" (MCA-40802) backed with a 2:53-listed edit of the "Radar Love" Moontan studio version. (I don't have this one to confirm that it's identical to the short side of the 1973 DJ 45.) I haven't seen a 3:44-ish U.S. Track/MCA stock 45. Edited by Yah Shure |
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Posted: 07 May 2013 at 11:56pm |
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Doug, my guess is that your buddy's memory is faulty, and that the (3:44)
Arena Rockers version was one of the many K-Tel custom hatchet jobs! Aside from the burgundy-colored, 1977 promo 45, MCA 40802, live version edit/original studio version edit that John has just referenced above (And John, you might want to compare my deadwax info below, with your 1977 short studio side, to see if they match up.) I have only ever seen *one* "Radar Love" promo 45, from 1974. My copy, confirmed as Track/MCA 40202, features the "short version" on both sides. One side is mono (deadwax "MC 2698M-W2"), the other side is stereo (deadwax "MC 2698-W3"). Both sides have both a listed and actual time of (2:53). Just now, while timing it, I was reminded of when I heard it played as a current. Jeez, was it ever sped up! I'm betting that the current (2:55) database CDs, which state "this is the DJ edit", are correct, edit-wise, except for the speed issue. John, if your 1977 promo's 45 version "checks out", could you possibly analyze it against the db "DJ edit" CDs, for a speed difference? Finally, I'm pretty darn surprised that I've never seen a short/long, 1974 Track/MCA "Radar Love" promo 45. There had to be one for it, right? Does anyone either have one, or do any of our old DJs on here remember spinning a white label, long version "Radar Love" promo on-air in '74? |
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Pat Downey
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 8:15am |
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Jim I have the long/short dj 45 of MCA 40202. The short side has matrix number MC 2698M-W2 and the long side has matrix number MC 2636-W2.
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jimct
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 9:08am |
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Thanks, Pat. It just made perfect sense that it also existed, given the
Rocket/MCA long/short promo 45 for "I've Got The Music In Me", which was out at right around the same time. |
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Yah Shure
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 9:56am |
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My MCA 40202 mono "short version"/stereo "long version" DJ 45 matches Pat's copy's deadwax info. It was pressed by MCA's Pinckneyville, Illinois plant, based on its deadwax symbol:
Pinkneyville, IL: <>--P--<> Gloversville, NY: [ ]--G--[ ] (Jim: I don't have any copy of the 1977 MCA 40802 45.) |
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Hykker
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 6:05pm |
John, You might want to give a listen to the short version on your copy...mine is labeled as being mono, but is actually stereo. Mine is also a Pinckneyville pressing. Somewhere I also have a mono/stereo short copy, but it seems to be misfiled. |
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 7:44pm |
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Steve, you're right about the so-called mono short side! It's a remix, actually: narrower than the long side, but done specifically with AM/mono FM compatibility in mind. MCA used that same approach more than a few times with other "mono"-labelled DJ 45 remixes in 1973, including Kiki Dee's "Amoureuse" (MCA-Rocket 40157) and Barry DeVorzon's "Theme From Dillinger" (MCA 40110).
The short "mono" (narrower stereo) "Radar Love" packs a much greater punch than the wider stereo mix on the long side, in my opinion. It really rocks! |
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 7:55pm |
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Jim's short/short promo 45 is also a Pinckneyville pressing, which prompts me to ask a question: My radio gigs were in the central third of the U.S., so all MCA promo service I ever received came from Pinckneyville. Does anyone who slaved over a hot turntable in the eastern states have Gloversville-pressed DJ 45s of any MCA titles from 1973 through the '80s?
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jimct
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Posted: 08 May 2013 at 8:15pm |
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John, I just chose one at random, from your time period, sent to CT radio.
ONJ's 1981's "Physical". It does have your Gloversville symbol. So there's one, of likely many! |
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