![]() |
mitch ryder devil blue dress good golly |
Post Reply ![]() |
Author | |
edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posted: 09 February 2014 at 8:15am |
my commercial 45 for the mitch ryder and the detroit
wheels song 'devil with a blue dress on & good golly miss molly' issued as new voice 817 list the run time on the label as 3:01 but actually runs 3:15.....the db states that the 3:12 running versions are the 45 version but slightly faster, which is true, but the vinyl runs 3:15 NOT 3:12 as it states in the db...this should be amended...thx jim for providing the raw files for my review..... |
|
edtop40
|
|
![]() |
|
crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Stereo LP version (about 3:04)
It's hard to tell a coherent story with these, so I'll just list the CDs I have in chronological order:
Stereo, similar to the 45 version but with some extra background vocals near the end and a :14 longer fade (3:28) Much easier to tell a coherent story with this version of the song. This first appeared on Rhino's Mitch Ryder And The Detroit Wheels best-of Rev Up (1989). The same analog transfer is used on:
Mono 45 version, but a little faster (3:12) This first appeared on Sundazed's Mitch Ryder collection All Hits (1994). It's appeared on a handful of Collectables compilations, all of which are likely digital clones of the Sundazed disc. Edited by crapfromthepast |
|
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
|
|
![]() |
|
LunarLaugh ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 February 2020 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Doesn't the version on "Rev Up" have the full reprise of the 'fee-fee-fi-fi' verse coming out of the "Good Golly Miss Molly" section as opposed
to cutting right to the 'wearing her pearls' line which, I assume is the 45 edit? |
|
![]() |
|
crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
On the 45, at about 2:31, the song comes out of a drum fill (with "hey hey" vocals) into "fee-fee-fi-fi...". The "wearing her pearls" line comes in at about 2:44.
The LP version cuts out 32 beats from the 45, starting with the "fee-fee-fi-fi..." lines, so that at about 2:33, the drum fill (with the "hey hey" vocals) goes straight into the "wearing her pearls" line. I don't know what the thought process was back in 1966 when this song was released. Maybe the LP came out after the 45, and when putting together the LP, some producer thought that the song flowed better without the 12 seconds from the "fee-fee-fi-fi" verse? |
|
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
|
|
![]() |
|
MMathews ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 August 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I could add that the mono 45 version at the correct speed
was released on the Varese Sarabande 302067408 "All-Time Greatest Hits" a few years back. MM |
|
![]() |
|
eriejwg ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 41 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Mark, thanks for the tip about the proper speed 45 version.
Years ago, I slowed down my All Hits version by 2% so it would run 3:15. Edited by eriejwg |
|
![]() |
|
crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 9 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Two years later, I took another look at this song.
I agree with my post from above, but I'd lump everything into slightly different categories: Mono (45 version) - on All Hits (1994) and some others. See posts above for speed issues. Stereo (LP version) - Rhino's Son Of Frat Rock (1988) seems to be the only one with the proper wide soundstage. 1966 stereo tracks were WIDE. All others (including Toga Rock) have a narrowed soundstage. Non-hit 1989 stereo remix of full performance - first appeared on Rhino's Rev Up The Best Of (1989). I've discovered that virtually all designations of ":xx longer than any previously released version" means a modern-day remix. The mono 45 was an early fade of the full performance. The stereo LP was an edit and early fade of the full performance. There was no vintage (1966) stereo version that didn't have the edit. |
|
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
|
|
![]() |
|
Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
My commercial 45 for this (New Voice 817) has 2 listed times on the label...2:40 and 3:01. Actual time 3:12.
|
|
![]() |
|
aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That's a strange pressing, Steve. I checked several copies on Discogs, and all of them have 3:01 for the A-side but 2:40 for the B-side.
|
|
![]() |
|
OldiesLover ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 27 July 2024 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I see someone mentioned the Varese Mitch Ryder greatest
hits has the correct single version at the correct speed. I remember that when I was preparing to get the sources together that someone had mentioned about the correct version so I found it and used it. I tried my best to get the correct versions but wasn't always successful. When Cary Mansfield offered that job when Bill Inglot left I told Cary that I had never done this before and he said "don't worry, you'll learn" which I tried to do as quickly as possible. When I asked Cary about masters for the songs we were using his answer was "find the best source yourself" which was a challenge sometimes. It wasn't until the last three years that I was getting digital copies from Sony, WEA, and Capitol. Although I will mention something about Capitol, when I got the master for the Linda Ronstadt "Silk Purse" CD for some reason Capitol left a half second between all the songs so I had to work to separate the tracks without losing anything. Steve Massie Edited by OldiesLover |
|
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
|
Tweet |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |