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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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just wondering if anyone has any input/idea how one would
alphabetize some of the new artists that are making the charts nowadays...such as the below list... august alsina or alsina, august? vance joy or joy, vance? tove lo or lo, tove? bobby shmurda or shmurda, bobby? rae sremmurd or sremmurd, rae? i love makonnen or ilovemakonnen? |
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EdisonLite ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Online Points: 68 |
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A lot of it depends on if it's a group name or a person's name. I was told Tove is a first name (Israeli), so she would be "Lo, Tove". Same is true for "Shmurda, Bobby" - unless of course, this is a group, like Jethro Tull (which would be under J), then this would be under S. Wikipedia should sort out which of these acts are groups or solo artists. As for your last entry, I would go with however they list their name on their CDs or website. For instance, I always go with OneRepublic as one word, not two, because that's the way the group spells their name. The same goes with this group you list. I don't know ilovemakonnen but if you've seen ilovemakonnen spelled that way, I would go with it. Another good source is Billboard and the Hot 100. I take it this is a top 40 hit so if Billboard uses spaces or doesn't, then I would do the same.
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Good advice.
I always alphabetize by last name if it's a person (Taylor Dayne), otherwise by first letter if it's a group (Danny Wilson). If the group starts with a number, I alphabetize by what the number would be if I wrote it out (38 Special alphabetized as if it were Thirty-Eight Special). I always drop "The" at the beginning of group names (The Clash alphabetized under Clash). I keep "A" or "An" because there are so few of them (A Flock Of Seagulls, An Emotional Fish). I put The The in the T's. I eliminate weird punctuation (Mike + The Mechanics becomes Mike And The Mechanics). For groups that have altered their names at one point or another (duranduran, matchbox twenty, AWB, ELO, John Cougar), I use the spelling that they used during their heyday. I put all of Miami Sound Machine under Gloria Estefan And Miami Sound Machine, and all of John Cougar's output under John Cougar Mellencamp. As time goes on and I rely more and more heavily on the digital library on my hard drives, I worry less about alphabetizing and more about making sure that when I query an artist, I get everything that the artist released. So "Hurts So Good" is listed under John Cougar Mellencamp, so that if I query Cougar or Mellencamp, I get a hit. At one point, I had a checklist of steps to follow for naming the artists and titles for the files in my library. I don't know where that checklist is, but it boils down to dropping a leading The, using And to replace weird punctuation, dropping the artist name from album titles (The Best Of The Spinners becomes Best Of), and capitalizing each word unless it's really in the name (k.d. lang, but I use A-Ha instead of a-ha). It's all about making sure that the library queries pick up what they're supposed to. |
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edtop40 ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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that's my point.....does anyone know anything about these
new artists that can shed a light on if they go by the persons name or a group name? |
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Underground Dub ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 10 July 2006 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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1) August Anthony Alsina, Jr. is an American recording artist... catch him on tour...
2) James Keogh, better known as Vance Joy, is an Australian singer-songwriter. Joy signed a five-album deal with Atlantic Records in 2013. He released his debut EP God Loves You When You're Dancing in March... 3) Ebba Tove Elsa Nilsson, better known by her stage name Tove Lo, is a Swedish singer, songwriter and musician from Stockholm, Sweden... 4) Ackquille Jean Pollard, known by his stage name Bobby Shmurda, is an American rapper from Brooklyn, signed to Epic Records. 5) Rae Sremmurd is an American hip hop duo, composed of Swae Lee and Slim Jimmy, from Tupelo, Mississippi. They are perhaps best known for their single "No Flex Zone!" 6) Makonnen Sheran, better known by his stage name iLoveMakonnen, is an American hip hop recording artist from Atlanta, Georgia. He rose to prominence in 2014 after having Drake remix his song Tuesday. These are always debatable, but personally I'd go... Alsina, August Joy, Vance Lo, Tove Shmurda, Bobby Rae Sremmurd iLoveMakonnen Edited by Underground Dub |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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I've kind of gone back & forth and round & round on this
myself. In my database I decided to file Tove Lo as such (under T), likewise someone like Jay-Z under "J" or LL Cool J under "L". Most of these could go either way, whatever makes the most sense for you. |
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