mr mister "broken wings"

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   antone know which cd has the true 45 version...........the cdr version i have is quite a bit slower than my 45 version and runs 4:44........i see some of the cd's that are qualified as the 45 version run 4:39.........that might be the correct pitch...........anyone????

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edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: mr mister "broken wings" Posted: 10 April 2006 at 9:25pm
	antone know which cd has the true 45 version...........the cdr version i have is quite a bit slower than my 45 version and runs 4:44........i see some of the cd's that are qualified as the 45 version run 4:39.........that might be the correct pitch...........anyone????
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2006 at 11:05pm
	I have a version on the Razor & Tie Totally 80's collection that runs (4:36). It's a faster pitch than the 45 version on Pure 80s Love. I just sent an mp3 of the first 10 seconds to review.

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2006 at 5:28pm
	i stand corrected..........the 45 and the version from the greatest hits cd running 4:44 is accurate.........the 4:39 version is the same version but faded 0:05 early..........
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2006 at 10:23pm
	So based on the mp3 I sent you, Ed, which is the correct pitch? Is the one on Totally 80's pitched up too fast? There are definitely copies of the 45 version that run faster than others---not just faded early.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 October 2006 at 2:22pm
	Reviving this thread because I have some new info to add... I just compared the DJ 45 version with the version on Pure 80s Love, and the CD copy runs slow. Pat may want to review the CDs in the database to see if there are others that have the wrong pitch. Also, the label on the DJ 45 states (4:29), but it actually runs (4:39). Therefore, the DJ 45 appears to be the same as commercial copies.

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2006 at 7:58am
	Pat: Just to make sure I'm clear... When you state in the database, for example, that "Broken Wings" runs ":04 slower than the 45 version" on a particular CD, are we to take this to mean that this is the complete 45 version length and that it just runs slower? I ask because nearly every CD in the database where the 45 version of "Broken Wings" appears to run at the correct speed turns out to fade :03 to :05 early. Edited by Todd Ireland

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2006 at 9:57am
	I believe you are right, Todd. My copy on CD that has the correct speed (on Razor & Tie's Totally 80s) fades about :03 too soon. I took the copy on Billboard Top Hits 1985 and pitched it up to match the 45, and it doesn't fade early.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 118	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2006 at 10:04am
	Wouldn't the comment be more accurate and more consistent if it said (45 version but slower), as it does with other entries having the same problem?

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 October 2006 at 1:12pm
	Yes to answer your question Todd, you may take this to mean it is the complete 45 version length -- it just runs slower. Obviously when the 45 was released, it was sped up and when the master tape was digitally remastered, no one knew that the 45 was sped up years ago so all appearances on cd seem to be slow.

EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 36	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 October 2006 at 8:39am
	Can anyone who has sped up "Broken Wings" tell me the percent that you sped it up to match the correct speed?