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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:


I am, however, under the belief that multiple US pressings
of Hot Rocks exist
on CD, and it has to do with "Time Is On My Side." I
noticed that Pat does not
list the original hit version with the organ intro on any
of the Hot Rocks CDs
in the database, but my friend's dad had one. I cannot say
with certainty that
his was a US pressing, but there is plenty of evidence that
it exists by posters
on the Hoffman board.


My Hot Rocks CD has the organ intro on TIOMS, and it's a US
pressing.
"Satisfaction" is mono.

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There are only a couple CDs I would've had with "Satisfaction": Hot Rocks and possibly a CD-R dub from the TM Century GoldDisc library. At the time, I worked for a radio group that had an oldies format and a ton of GoldDiscs. Although I no longer have any of those old CD-Rs, I think my old station had the 500 series, and GoldDisc 501 contains the stereo "Satisfaction." Perhaps that is what I was thinking in regards to that song.

Even if I'm wrong about "Satisfaction," I am glad that we confirmed that at least one pressing of Hot Rocks has the original version of "Time Is On My Side," as I'm sure Pat will want to include the details in the database.

This may be old news to everyone here, but the guitar-intro version of "Time Is On My Side," which was recorded at Chess studios in November 1964, is the UK LP version. In the US, 12 X 5 was released as the Stones' second album in May 1964. In England, their second album didn't get released until January 1965, which was The Rolling Stones No. 2.

The database currently says that the guitar-intro version first appeared on the Big Hits (High Tides and Green Grass) vinyl LP, which came out in March 1966. That's probably true for the US market, and it's not necessarily an inaccurate statement. I did, however, find it interesting that it was released more than a year earlier in England as the official album version.
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With regards to the "Time Is On My Side" issue it would certainly help if someone would pass along the running time on the Hot Rocks cd that includes the organ introduction so I can enter it in the database.
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Originally posted by Pat Downey Pat Downey wrote:

With regards to the "Time Is On My Side" issue it would certainly help if someone would pass along the running time on the Hot Rocks cd that includes the organ introduction so I can enter it in the database.

It would also be helpful to know if other tracks differ. Since they went to the trouble of swapping "Time Is On My Side," perhaps they used different masters for more than just that one song.
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Originally posted by Pat Downey Pat Downey wrote:

With regards to the "Time Is On My Side"
issue it would certainly help if someone would pass along the
running time on the Hot Rocks cd that includes the organ
introduction so I can enter it in the database.


Listed 2:50
Actual 2:48

Can't help you with differences on other songs...I only have
the one one copy of Hot Rocks.


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I suppose we should create a fresh string for "Hot Rocks". On "Time is on My Side", my 1986 copy of Hot Rocks features the organ intro, and it's
at 2:49 on my copy, listed at 2:50.

As far as the rest of the double CD is concerned, the only differences not noted in the database are that "Brown Sugar" and "Wild Horses" seem to have
worse stereo separation than other releases (not sure it's worth noting), and "Jumpin' Jack Flash" is in mono. Not much to like about this CD set,
sound quality is not great.

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So there isn't a stereo LP version on Out Of Their Heads released to the masses? Is the one that appeared on German and Japanese editions of the CD reissue of Hot Rocks 1964–1971 the LP version any better?

Such a huge hit not to have a true stereo version is surprising. The poor stereo separation is noted in Pat's database on the only stereo releases.

This is one I would love to hear in DES if Eric Records ever gets around to it!

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PopArchivist, the first stereo issue of "Satisfaction" was in 1985 on "Hot Rocks
1" CD (issued only in certain countries - mine was a W-Germany pressing). I
tracked that down after Dick Bartley played it in stereo on his "Solid Gold
Saturday Night" show back in 1987 (it took me a while of going thru various US
and Canada pressed CDs only to find them all in mono). It is wide stereo,
features the acoustic guitar which is all but buried in the mono mix, and
generally lacks the punch of the mono. It is what it is. Collector's have
"processed" that track so it doesn't sound as "extreme". So, there IS a true
stereo version of it. And, there is no LP vs. 45 version for this track.

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