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    Posted: 06 May 2006 at 4:52pm
Stereo side of stock and promo state (3:45), and run a second longer. The mono side listed the time as (2:45). Thought it was a label typo at first. Then, in the smallest type I have EVER seen on any 45, I notice (short version) in parens after the time. I then clean my glasses, and take a 2nd look at the stereo side - sure enough, there's (long version) in similarly microscopic fashion. Short mono side actually runs (2:46).
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Thanks to Jim, I was able to verify that the "short version" contains only one edit, cutting from the midpoint of the first chorus to the midpoint of the second chorus.
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As I recall, my original 1974 stock copy of this 45 had an actual run time in the (3:45-3:46) range, but this copy was stolen from my station lock-up back in 1986. I have finally acquired a replacement stock 45 copy, which is stereo. To my surprise, it also has a listed time of (3:45), same as my original copy, but this copy has an actual time of only (2:46). It is exactly the same version that appears on the "short version" of my DJ 45, which I've already detailed earlier in this thread.

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Hi,

I have a vinyl 45 of this which is the long (3:46) version. It is Stereo. Apparently, there was a Short version of this on a Stock 45. My copy does indicate Long Version.
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As a reference.
"So You Are A Star" on the LP" Hollywood Situation"(Casablanca NLBP 7004 US issue) is stated "3:45" on the record label, and the LP running time is the same as the listed time.
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There are two different stock 45s of this song; I have both of them.

Casablanca 0108, which was distributed by Warner Bros., has the listed 3:45/actual 3:46 as noted in the first post. Casablanca 801, which was the new number after the label left Warners, has the 2:46 A-side. It's possible that there is overlap, but from my limited experience with this 45, that seems to be the best way to tell which stock version you have: 0108=long, 801=short.

The song didn't get a lot of airplay in the Philadelphia area, where I was in 1974, but in those rare instances that I heard it, I always heard the short version.


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Originally posted by TimNeely TimNeely wrote:

There are two different stock 45s of this song; I have both of them.

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The song didn't get a lot of airplay in the Philadelphia area, where I was in 1974, but in those rare instances that I heard it, I always heard the short version.

That's funny, because in Providence, RI (where I grew up in the 70's), they also only played the short version.
When I bought the 45 back then, I got the short version. So I never knew there was more to the 2nd verse. I believe the "..and you play the part, OK" was what was cut, and so a few years ago when I got a VA CD with the song on it, I was taken back (and happily surprised) when I heard that lyric.

I wonder why they cut that verse out back then.
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Originally posted by tedler tedler wrote:

I wonder why they cut that verse out back then.


A lot of radio stations wouldn't play anything longer than 3:00 or 3:30 back then, hence the short edits. Exceptions were made for superstar acts like Elton John.

Even EJ was subjected to "house edits"...the station I did weekends at in '74/75 played custom edits of "Lucy in The Sky..." & "Someone Saved My Life Tonight".
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Just bumping up this thread since Abagon's LP run time info for Hudson Brothers' "So You Are a Star" was never incorporated into the database (actual and printed LP time is 3:45). With that said, all database CD appearances of the song to date should probably have a "LP and long 45 version" comment.
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

Just bumping up this thread since Abagon's LP run time info for Hudson Brothers' "So You Are a Star" was never incorporated into the database (actual and printed LP time is 3:45).


But again - like w/ The Romantics - it's worth noting that abagon's LP is, in fact, a re-issue, as indicated by the "NBLP-7004" catalog no. that he claims is printed on his copy. As TimNeely accurately pointed out in his post above, this Hudson Brothers single ("So You Are a Star") & album (Hollywood Situation) came out just as Casablanca was transitioning from Warner Bros. to indie distribution in the fall of '74, and abagon's LP is the later indie version. The original Warner-distributed pressings of Hollywood Situation were on Casablanca NB-9008. Don't own either version of the album myself, but I should know, since I helped compile the first-ever (nearly complete) Casablanca album discography on-line some 14 years ago (1999), and is still posted (and referenced more than any other) to this day...
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