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Roberta Flack - "Killing Me Softly..." |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Could swear I put this up already, but apparently not: To the best of my knowledge, all stock 45s on this had a listed and actual time of (4:46), and ended, while all promo 45s had a listed and actual time of (4:13), and faded. Have never seen a promo of the (4:46) version, and always heard the fade during its current 1973 chart run on the radio.
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Grant ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 12 October 2004 Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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In 1973, I suspect many radio stations had the full-length verson but faded it out before the coda. My local station only played it all the way through once or twice that I recall.
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Gary Mack ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Our Top 40 station - KLEO/Wichita - never played the edited version. As best I remember, the radio programming tip sheets and magazines showed most stations aired the full version. In fact, since the song was such a huge hit, it would be dumb to air an edit since so many listeners would react negatively.
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Pat Downey ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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Another interesting post on dj edits Jim. I wish to point out that I have a dj copy of that song that is the full length (4:46) version so they do exist!
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Gary Mack ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Well, Jim, apparently you can't read very well. My post didn't say the stations were LISTED. But the key publications and stations I paid attention to played only the full version. Even Atlantic Records told me that (Vince Faraci was their national promo guy, as I recall). I don't know what John Long's WAVZ/New Haven played, nor do I care. I always enjoyed beating the pants off so-called competitors who insulted the audience by editing their product. And say hello to John for me. Thanks, pal. GM |
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jimct ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Oh, I can read just fine, Gary. If you said earlier that Vince Faraci told you that, instead of "radio programming tip sheets and magazines", I would've understood - to me, Vince and magazines don't mean the same thing - HE would obviously know. I haven't been on this Board very long, but I thought your post was a little hostile and mean spirited. This Board's not about ratings, markets, and who's the bigger programming genius, is it? It's about Top 40 Music on CD, and different versions of hit 45s offered up by the record companies, good or bad, no? I have no opinion on which Flack version is better - I'm just helping Pat Downey & Co. acknowledge its existence in his on-line book by providing facts as best as I can. I believe my comments are within this Board's scope, and I will not apologize for them. Gary, I'm very happy you have a radio philosophy that has worked well for you, and that you are confident in - my kudos, but is it relevant to this Board? Hey, I didn't press the Flack short DJ version up, Atlantic did (apparently, over Vince's better judgement!) I wish you continued success, sir.
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Brian W. ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 13 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Was the commercial issue of "Killing Me Softly" stereo or mono? I ask because on the upcoming Rhino Digial 45 for this song, both sides of the single seem to be mono, judging from the sample. However, the label scan they used for the artwork clearly says "stereo." The running time for the MP3 would seem to indicate it's the commercial 45 length.
Perhaps this is another case of some pressings being mono, others stereo? |
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Yah Shure ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 11 December 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Brian, I don't have the commercial 45, so I'll let someone else chime in who does have a copy. But FWIW, the '70s-vintage gold-label Oldies Series reissue 45 is the stereo (4:46) version, backed with the mono "Trade Winds," the original B-side of "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face."
As for the DJ 45s discussed above, my college station received the (4:13) version first. We'd been playing it heavily for a couple of weeks before the (4:46) version arrived. Atlantic indicated that this reserviced copy was the "correct" version, and that the earlier (4:13) edit had been issued in error. By then, the short version had become the "hit" for us, so that's what we stuck with. |
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Hykker ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 30 October 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Actually, it was released commercially both ways. I have a copy of each. As far as the "dumbness" of playing an edit, keep in mind that only a small percentage of your listeners will have purchased the song (either single or album). I've never seen any correlation between ratings and whether or not you played the long version of a song. I'll agree it was a bit of a fad in the mid-late 70s to play the long version, but it was by no means universal. |
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