Top 40 Music on CD Homepage
Forum Home Forum Home > Top 40 Music On Compact Disc > Chat Board
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Ann Peebles - I Can’t Stand the Rain
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Ann Peebles - I Can’t Stand the Rain
 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
mjb50 View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 28 April 2021
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 19 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mjb50 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Ann Peebles - I Can’t Stand the Rain
    Posted: 26 October 2022 at 12:49am
"I Can't Stand the Rain" by Ann Peebles (1973 single, 1974 LP) apparently has two stereo versions. I think the only difference is in how the tracks are panned.

The 1974 LP version has the intro synth centered, acoustic bass left, horns right.

The other version, which is on Rhino Instant Party - Whole Lotta Soul, has the intro synth panned right, bass left, horns left. However, I suspect the channels may be swapped, and it's really supposed to be synth left, acoustic bass right, horns right.

What's on the original 45 on Hi Records?


Edited by mjb50
Back to Top
AndrewChouffi View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 September 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2022 at 5:45am
I believe all commercial copies of the 45 were mono.

Great record!! I wouldn't personally refer to this hit as
OT, as it reached 33 in Record World, and 38 in Billboard!

Andy
Back to Top
Paul C View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 23 October 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 9 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Paul C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2022 at 8:17am
When the single came out, John Lennon said, "'Rain' is the
greatest record I've heard in two years."

And yes, every 45 I've ever come across has been mono.

Edited by Paul C
Back to Top
crapfromthepast View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 14 September 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2022 at 3:15pm
Nice find! Yes, indeed, there are two different stereo mixes.

One stereo mix has the low-to-high repeating guitar (the first sound in the song) centered, a low-pitched drum (starting at 0:07) panned left, and horns (starting at 0:30) panned right. I have this mix on:
  • Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 11 (1991)
  • the promo sampler Right Stuff Sampler (1993, DPRO-66684); EQ'd less bright than Rhino disc
  • an import Best Soul Album In The World Ever (1999) - mastered too loud and clips a lot; fade ends about 3 beats shorter than Rhino disc
  • an import 2-Cd set Sampled Vol. 3 (2002) - mastered too loud and clips a lot; fade ends about 3 beats shorter than Rhino disc
The other stereo mix has the low-to-high repeating guitar (the first sound in the song) panned right, a low-pitched drum (starting at 0:07) panned left, and horns (starting at 0:30) panned left. I have this mix on:
  • the 2-CD Hi Times The Hi Records R&B Years (1995) - extends about one beat longer than Rhino CD and runs teeny bit slower
  • Rhino's multi-disc Can You Dig It The '70s Soul Experience (2001) - digitally identical to Hi Times
  • almost certainly the same version that's on Rhino Instant Party Whole Lotta Soul, but I can't confirm
If I had to guess (and it really is a shot-in-the-dark guess), I'd venture that the mix on Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 11 is a previously unreleased mix. The same issue occurred with "Everybody Plays The Fool", with the Rhino series using a great-sounding mix that was previously unreleased. I'd further guess that someone at Rhino spotted the error later on, and used the other mix on later Rhino releases like Instant Party and Can You Dig It.

Again, pure speculation on my part. Other opinions and data points welcome!
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
Back to Top
mjb50 View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 28 April 2021
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 19 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mjb50 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2022 at 7:40pm
That's a guitar?!

Anyway, I figured it was off-topic since it's not in Pat's database. I edited the title just now to remove the "OT:".

Thanks, all, for the further info & research.

Edited by mjb50
Back to Top
crapfromthepast View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan
Avatar

Joined: 14 September 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 9 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote crapfromthepast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2022 at 7:43pm
I'm not really sure what instrument that is, so I went with guitar. I defer to the musicians among us.

Still a great song, nearly 50 years later.
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
Back to Top
AndrewChouffi View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 24 September 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 3 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndrewChouffi Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2022 at 5:49am
Originally posted by mjb50 mjb50 wrote:

That's a guitar?!

It sounds to me like a percussion instrument that's tuned.

Just did some (limited) research and timbales came up...

Makes sense, but it sure sounds electronically slowed down
to my ears.

Andy
Back to Top
mjb50 View Drop Down
Music Fan
Music Fan


Joined: 28 April 2021
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 19 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mjb50 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 October 2022 at 9:28pm
Ah, you got it. It's an electric timbale, according to Peebles herself.

So it's kind of a synth, I guess? That said, I can't find anything about such an instrument ever existing, outside of discussion of that song.

On the 1974 Peel Session, it sounds like they used guitar instead.

Edited by mjb50
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.07
Copyright ©2001-2024 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.063 seconds.