Vanity Fare - Hitchin’ A Ride

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   I noticed the database lists "with 45 ending" or "with LP ending" next to each 

CD appearance of "Hitchin' A Ride" by Vanity Fare.  Shouldn't this just be "45 

length" and "LP length"?  The 45 is simply an early fade of the LP version, 

shortening the song by 20-some seconds.

Edited by aaronk

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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 268	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Vanity Fare - Hitchin’ A Ride Posted: 14 June 2006 at 12:26am
	I noticed the database lists "with 45 ending" or "with LP ending" next to each CD appearance of "Hitchin' A Ride" by Vanity Fare. Shouldn't this just be "45 length" and "LP length"? The 45 is simply an early fade of the LP version, shortening the song by 20-some seconds. Edited by aaronk
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 46	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 June 2006 at 4:03am
	I believe so, aaronk. There'd be previous posts on this one a while ago too!
	dc1

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 46	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 September 2011 at 4:25am
	I have to raise this to the top, as I have compared the mono LP length and the 45 (from "On The Radio" CD) and I don't hear an ending difference, rather a simple early fade (and of course it being mono) for the 45. Where exactly do they deviate? Pat? Also, there are mostly mono mixes of the LP length on CD. Does anyone know if this version appeared in 1970, or if not, when did it first appear? I have the "Early In The Morning" LP, and it's stereo LP length there. Was the LP available in mono? somewhere?
	dc1

Pat Downey Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 01 October 2003 Status: Offline Points: 1	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pat Downey Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 September 2011 at 7:26pm
	The 45 and LP start diverging at 2:43 where at least the stereo LP version starts including some vocals (ride, ride) that you never hear on the 45. Perhaps there is a mono "Early In The Morning" LP but I am not aware of it.

aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 268	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 September 2011 at 9:15pm
	The 45 only runs 2:39, so of course there are vocals at 2:43 that you never hear on the 45! I know this is a decision you made years ago, but it's never made any sense to me. If the 45 and LP are identical, except that the 45 fades early (or later), it should be designated "length."
	Aaron Kannowski Uptown Sound 91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 46	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2011 at 12:01am
	I agree with Aaron.
	dc1

Bill Cahill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 27 June 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Cahill Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2011 at 4:00am
	I think the full length mono issues on CD came from the British 45 which was not faded early. Probably because the best tapes that could be found came from overseas, and I suspect the original stereo tapes could not be found or were unusable. So I believe all issues on CD have either 45 length, LP length, or remix (from multitracks).. or horrible remakes.. Edited by Bill Cahill

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 46	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 September 2011 at 9:42am
	ahhh, a case of the US 45 fading early. A friend tells me his Canadian 45 runs the full LP length as well.
	dc1

KentT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KentT Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2011 at 11:30am
	Remember this is a UK Recording to begin with. For UK Page One Records. Roger Easterby Management owns the master presently. And this was a mono only recording.
	I turn up the good and turn down the bad!

edtop40 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 29 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 15	Post Options Post Reply Quote edtop40 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 October 2011 at 11:52am
	my commercial 45 issued as page one 21,029 is in mono and lists a run time on the label as 2:37 and does indeed run that length...if you fade the super hits of the 70's cd for 0:06 from 2:31 to 2:37 you'll effectively re-create the true vinyl 45 version......
	edtop40