Wadsworth Mansion-"Sweet Mary"

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   It currently states in the database that DJ copies for this state a listed time of (3:01), but actually run (2:40). Pat, I have no doubt that such a promo 45 does exist like that. However, my promo 45 happens to have a listed time of (2:40), and actually runs a second shorter, at (2:39). As a side note, I found a used LP for this years ago, thinking it would contain the "cold ending" version (currently found on CD on "On The Radio, Volume Four.") As Pat correctly describes, all CD versions contain one of the two 45 versions. The 1971 LP version of this song sounds SO different than either of the two 45 versions, it probably shouldn't have even been called "Sweet Mary!" The 45 versions were DRASTIC improvements, IMHO. Might I also state that I happen to have FOUR different commercial copies for this, ALL with deadwax of either SUX 209-A or SUX 209A-1; ALL four feature the fade ending. While I have the cold ending 45 version on both a mint V/A LP AND the CD above, I never heard that version on the radio back in 1971. I have also never actually SEEN a Sussex 45 with the "cold end," and I would have to conclude that this version is a fairly rare commercial 45 to come up with, based on my years of frustrating personal experience. Pat, could you please share the deadwax info for your "cold end" commercial 45 copy?

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jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Wadsworth Mansion-"Sweet Mary" Posted: 14 February 2007 at 3:18pm
	It currently states in the database that DJ copies for this state a listed time of (3:01), but actually run (2:40). Pat, I have no doubt that such a promo 45 does exist like that. However, my promo 45 happens to have a listed time of (2:40), and actually runs a second shorter, at (2:39). As a side note, I found a used LP for this years ago, thinking it would contain the "cold ending" version (currently found on CD on "On The Radio, Volume Four.") As Pat correctly describes, all CD versions contain one of the two 45 versions. The 1971 LP version of this song sounds SO different than either of the two 45 versions, it probably shouldn't have even been called "Sweet Mary!" The 45 versions were DRASTIC improvements, IMHO. Might I also state that I happen to have FOUR different commercial copies for this, ALL with deadwax of either SUX 209-A or SUX 209A-1; ALL four feature the fade ending. While I have the cold ending 45 version on both a mint V/A LP AND the CD above, I never heard that version on the radio back in 1971. I have also never actually SEEN a Sussex 45 with the "cold end," and I would have to conclude that this version is a fairly rare commercial 45 to come up with, based on my years of frustrating personal experience. Pat, could you please share the deadwax info for your "cold end" commercial 45 copy? Edited by jimct

Gary Mack Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 06 February 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary Mack Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 February 2007 at 5:14pm
	My Sweet Mary Sussex vinyl 45 runs 2:57, though the label shows only 2:40. The matrix number on the label reads SUX-209A-1, but the deadwax has SUX-209A. I worked in Phoenix Top 40 radio then, but I do not remember ever playing this cold end version. GM

AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 February 2007 at 7:25pm
	Hi Jim, What various artist lp contained the version with the cold ending? The first time I ever heard that version was in the 80s on Dick Bartley's 'Solid Gold Saturday Night' program. Andy

jimct Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote jimct Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 February 2007 at 8:00pm
	Andy, for a couple of years K-Tel actually put out some high-quality V/A comps, with just 5-6 full-length tracks per side, on their albums. None of the typical, 12-tracks-per-LP-side, microgrooved, highly-truncated version shenanigans that they and other such mostly-TV-offer labels (i.e. Ronco) were often known for. The first place I found the long 45 version of "Sweet Mary" was on one of these, a 2-LP set called "Today's Super Greats", featuring songs between 1970 and 1973. "Sweet Mary", with the cold end, was included on Disc 1 of this set.