"You Make Me Feel Like Dancing"

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   OK, here's a strange question.  I have the single version of Leo Sayer's "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" from the Rhino Very Best Of Leo Sayer CD loaded on my iPod.  While listening to it this morning, at the edit point at (1:45), the edit to my ears sounds a little awkward (almost like a little bit of silence precedes it, telling you an obvious edit is coming up).  Since I have no vinyl to speak of, was it that way on the vinyl single?

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sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" Posted: 10 May 2007 at 7:43am
	OK, here's a strange question. I have the single version of Leo Sayer's "You Make Me Feel Like Dancing" from the Rhino Very Best Of Leo Sayer CD loaded on my iPod. While listening to it this morning, at the edit point at (1:45), the edit to my ears sounds a little awkward (almost like a little bit of silence precedes it, telling you an obvious edit is coming up). Since I have no vinyl to speak of, was it that way on the vinyl single?
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AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 May 2007 at 10:49am
	Yep!

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 May 2007 at 10:38am
	I always wondered about that too!

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2011 at 8:32am
	Revisiting this, because as I listen to the 45 version on the T-L Sounds of the Seventies: 1977 Take Two disc, the edit is a lot less awkward. Which means one of those versions (either the T-L version or the Rhino version) is not the correct 45 version (which would probably mean an update to the database). Can anyone confirm for sure how smooth the edit was on the vinyl 45?
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AndrewChouffi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 24 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AndrewChouffi Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 January 2011 at 6:32pm
	It wasn't smooth at all...

KentT Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 25 May 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote KentT Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2011 at 3:18pm
	Indeed, not smooth and a little bit glitchy.
	I turn up the good and turn down the bad!

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2011 at 6:49pm
	Now that I've had the chance to hear it, I concur with Andy and Kent. Meaning any version where the edit is smooth is not the correct 45 version and should probably be reflected in the database. I referenced the T-L 1977 Take Two CD above, but there may be others.
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aaronk Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 88	Post Options Post Reply Quote aaronk Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 January 2011 at 11:24pm
	I've long suspected there are many tracks on Rhino discs where they re-created the 45 versions by making their own edits. It's not an easy task to go and check them all, so it's always appreciated when someone can point out mistakes. Thank you, Doug! I'm sure many of the Rhino edits are very close; however, if done with tape and a razor blade, they probably aren't 100% spot on.

sriv94 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 September 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote sriv94 Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2011 at 6:20am
	The irony here, Aaron, is that it's a Rhino disc that got it right and the T-L disc that got it wrong. That said, I don't know whether all the Rhino discs are right, nor do I know whether all the T-L discs are wrong.
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EdisonLite Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 18 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote EdisonLite Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 January 2011 at 8:53am
	Yeah, I, too, thought that what I read was that Rhino got it right and Time-Life got it wrong. Speaking of spliced tapes and razor blades (as Aaron did), this brings up another point - All single versions that contain edits are one generation removed from the album versions, in terms of quality and tape hiss. So for all the CD choices we have these days for a song, it may be better to go with a newly edited version (if it TRULY matches the original 45 edit) because if the newly made edit was done digitally, it will be one generation better than using the tape of the actual single edit (and therefore, may be less hissy.) Just food for thought.