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Todd Ireland ![]() Music Fan ![]() Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 23 |
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The actual commercial 45 run time of Daryl Hall & John Oates' "You Make My Dreams" is 3:09, not 3:10 as stated on the record label. (These timings are courtesy of abagon.) The reason I post this info is because database CD appearances of this song run from 3:02-3:10.
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aaronk ![]() Admin Group ![]() Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 208 |
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I never realized what I was missing until just the other day. A few of the Hall & Oates compilations I own have a heavy dose of noise reduction on "You Make My Dreams," which also reduces the reverb and high frequencies. I heard a copy last week from Starting All Over Again, and it sounds much better. Calling crapfromthepast! We need your expertise on analyzing which discs sound nice and which ones suck!
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crapfromthepast ![]() Music Fan ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 104 |
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I just checked my messages on the Batphone, and noticed that you called... :)
"You Make My Dreams" first appeared on CD on RCA's Greatest Hits Rock And Soul Part 1 (copyright 1983), where it runs 3:07 and has a truncated fade. It sounds great here, with excellent dynamic range, nice EQ, not a hint of noise reduction, and a pleasing hiss on the fade. On the down side, the fade is slightly truncated at 3:07, and the volume level is a little low (about 2 or 3 dB of headroom). Since we're listening for noise reduction, here's what to listen for: crank the intro keyboard part up 20 dB and listen to the "silence" between the notes. I hear a very nice tape hiss in there, which is reassuring. Also, crank the fade up by 40 dB and make sure there aren't any artifacts on the fade, like a whooshing/swirling sound, or a change in EQ that drop out the high end. No such NR artifacts on this disc. There's a different analog transfer on Heartland/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Feel Good Rock (1989). It runs 3:04 here, and fades to silence a little earlier than Rock And Soul Part 1. Also excellent dynamic range, nice EQ, and not a hint of noise reduction. It has a little more hiss than Rock And Soul Part 1, so it may be a higher-generation tape source, but it still sounds very good here. The same analog transfer is used on these discs, which all sound basically the same as Feel Good Rock:
The version on Big Ear Music's Only In The 80's Vol. 1 (1995) sounds quite nice, and runs 3:07. It has a slightly bass-boosted EQ, compared to Rock And Soul Part 1. It also has an excellent dynamic range (it clips in a few places - insignificant), and no hint of NR. The 2-CD set Starting All Over Again (1997) sounds extremely close to Only In The 80's Vol. 1, but extends out to 3:10. For this reason, I suspect that both Starting and Only both use the same analog transfer as Voices, which I don't have. The level is a little lower than Only, so there's no clipping. It sounds really tremendous on this disc. The version on Madacy's Rock On 1981 Bette Davis Eyes (1998) clips heavily around -3 dB and has a very boomy EQ. No noise reduction, but still sounds terrible. I think it may also use the same analog transfer as Voices, but it in no way resembles the same sound quality as Only or Starting. Could there be a pre-1998 remastered version of Voices that has the clipping/boomy EQ? The 1996 and 1998 releases in Madacy's Rock On series tend to be level-shifted versions of earlier masterings. The 3-CD Legendary (2002) sounds extremely close to Starting All Over Again and Only In The 80's Vol. 1, but truncates the fade at 3:04. (It has its absolute polarity inverted on both channels, which is insignificant. I put this in as a note to myself if I ever want to revisit these tracks. Which I won't.) There seems to be a new analog transfer for the 2-CD Ultimate (2004), which is way too loud and clips severely. There's no evidence of noise reduction, but the EQ blunts a little of the high end. I don't like the sound of the song on this disc. Avoid. The version on Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 9 Cool Night (2007) has excellent dynamic range and a nice EQ, but has noise reduction! What the heck? A rare misstep for the Time-Life discs. I don't know where this version came from. Avoid, obviously. If I had to rank them, I'd go with Starting All Over Again (1997) for "You Make My Dreams". It runs out to 3:10 here. I suspect that the original RCA disc of Voices sounds like this, as well. Sounding just as good, but running a little shorter, are Only In The 80's Vol. 1 (1995; 3:07) and Legendary (2002; 3:04). Greatest Hits Rock And Soul Part 1 (1983) sounds almost as good as all of the above, but only runs 3:07. The Warner Special Products discs sound fine, but are probably one tape-generation higher than the above. Avoid everything else. Edited by crapfromthepast |
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