ZZ Top - La Grange

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   Back with another 45 fade question, if ya don't mind.

Does anyone know the beginning and ending fade points to make La Grange the 45 length of 3:14?

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eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: ZZ Top - La Grange Posted: 10 October 2008 at 10:04pm
	Back with another 45 fade question, if ya don't mind. Does anyone know the beginning and ending fade points to make La Grange the 45 length of 3:14?

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 October 2008 at 2:30pm
	Chuck was very kind to send me a dub of a 45. Upon reviewing trying to create the proper 45 length, it became apparent the 45 is an edit of the LP version. Interesting.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 October 2008 at 3:44pm
	Yes, 3 edits for sure and you have to amplify the end.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 October 2008 at 7:07pm
	Has anyone else tried to recreate these edits? Not the easiest, and after extra ears hearing my recreation, I'm a bit off.

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 October 2008 at 10:08am
	An assist to Yah Shure for the help once again. And, he pointed out that the CD versions are missing the "huh huh" after "...shack outside La Grange" is sung at the very beginning. The "huh huh" is present on both the stereo DJ and mono commercial 45 version. Regarding the listed 3:34 versions in the database. Should either a LP version faded :18 early comment be added, or a 'neither the 45 nor LP' comment?

Todd Ireland Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 18	Post Options Post Reply Quote Todd Ireland Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 January 2009 at 1:52pm
	Just thought I'd bump this thread back to the forefront since the database was never updated to reflect John's discovery that there is a version difference between the 45 and LP of ZZ Top's "La Grange". In other words, CD appearances running 3:50-3:51 should contain an "LP version" comment. John also reported that CD entries containing the 3:34 length should contain an "LP version faded :18 early" comment, or something to that effect.

crapfromthepast Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8	Post Options Post Reply Quote crapfromthepast Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 June 2010 at 6:25pm
	Digging around the ZZ Top Greatest Hits CD from 1992. Great sound on most tracks, but I noticed that 4 songs on it are "DIGITALLY REMIXED AND REMASTERED". I'd read about the remixes on the Steve Hoffman forum, so I was only half surprised. Apparently, the remixes are most noticeable in the drums - loud, reverb-laden snare, as was the custom for around 1985, when the remixes were commissioned for the CD releases of their first few albums. I compared the 1992 GH version with the one on Time-Life's Guitar Rock - The Mid-'70s (1994), and the T-L disc is a digital clone of the GH disc (exactly 0.9 dB louder, to be precise). My 1996 copy of Pat's book indicates "LP length" for the T-L disc, but I think this should be updated to "LP length; remixed" if it hasn't already been done so.

davidclark Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 17 November 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 14	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidclark Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 July 2017 at 9:07am
	Does anyone have a dub or a recreation of the 45 version of this track? Tried to make one, but gave up...
	dc1

eriejwg Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Music Fan Joined: 10 June 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40	Post Options Post Reply Quote eriejwg Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 July 2017 at 8:48pm
	I'm not quite sure the stereo DJ 45 version can be recreated. Besides the aforementioned difference I discovered in 2008, even if you were to fly in the missing vocal part it still doesn't really match. I'll stick with the DJ 45 dub that Yah Shure sent me years ago as the correct version in my library.