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    Posted: 19 June 2005 at 1:22pm
I've got a copy of this track that runs 4:07, while Pat's book states that DJ copies of "Nikita" run 3:59. I'm guessing I either have an unsuccesful attempt at re-creating the DJ edit, or the label of the DJ 45 is incorrectly timed. Can anyone with the DJ 45 please let me know if it actually runs 3:59?

It may also be a case that I have the DJ edit, but it's not faded out soon enough. At the end of the song on my CD, the line that repeats "Counting ten tin soldiers in a row" first starts at 3:33 and repeats to the fade out at 4:07. Does this match up?
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A friend of mine has the DJ 45... The actual run time is 4:07.
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Pat:

It appears the database was never updated with Aaron's info regarding the short DJ 45 edit of Elton John's "Nikita" where the actual run time is 4:07, not 3:59 as stated on the record label.

One other minor note... The database also presently notes that commercial copies are all 4:54. This is probably an instance where the time is based on what is printed on the record label because abagon reports the actual run time at 4:52.
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For those wondering, the short DJ 45 is one simple edit.

Keep 00:00-03:01.129
Delete 03:01.129-04:35.429
Keep 4:35.429 to the end.

Resulting file runs 4:07.
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Todd: I believe commercial copies run 5:42.
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I have the 7" promo copy of this; one side is shown as 4:54 (U.K edit) the other side as 3:59 (U.S. edit). I also have a 12" promo; one side has the 4:54 U.K. edit, the other side is 5:42 (LP version). All timings are as listed on the label.

From what I recall there was an instrumental bridge that was on the U.K. & LP versions that was edited from the "U.S. edit". The LP version is similar to the U.K. edit, only with a longer intro (and maybe longer fade).
IIRC, the U.K. edit was what was on the "To Be Continued" box set. I don't have a copy of the commercial 45.
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BTW, source file I used was from Greatest Hits 1970-2002. Edit from just before the drumbeat where Elton sings "Nikita I Need You So..." at 3:01 to the same at 4:34.

I like dem easy edits!
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Originally posted by eriejwg eriejwg wrote:

Todd: I believe commercial copies run 5:42.


No... Unless you have a different commercial 45 pressing, John, the correct 45 time is 4:52. You may be confusing the 5:42 time with the LP version length.

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Yes, correct, 5:42 is the LP, as my edit points for the DJ edit indicate.
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I'm not doing something right here.

I started with the LP version.

I took out 0:05 - 0:16.

I took out 2:48 - 3:10.

I took out 4:37 - 4:48.

At this point, I had created the single edit (with perhaps a bit too long of a fade at the end).

When I then try to take out 3:01 - 4:35, editing at the down-beat before "...need you so..." I actually take 2:35 to 3:47...

...resulting in a BIZARRE jump in volume, and a file only 3:48 in length, & that's with some un-trimmed silence at the end.

Are you telling me the short DJ edit DOESN'T edit the intro?

I'm really scratching my head on this one.
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