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Aerosmith "Janie’s Got A Gun"

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As a follow up, it appears European CD copies of Devil's Got A New Disguise: The Very Best Of Aerosmith include the "CHR Remix" (aka "CHR Full Intro Remix"), while US CDs have the LP version without "Water Song" on the intro. It's the European version that has been made avaialble on digital streaming services here in the US.
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Getting crazy specific here, but I noticed even the “chhh” is a different
“chhh” in the “mm-chhh” vs “chhh” intros. 🤪

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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:


Also, it would probably be useful to mention in the song's database title notes that the “LP version” on this promo CD single is actually the 45/single version but runs faster and fades out several seconds sooner.

I just put the Pump CD version and the promo CD "LP Version" in the multi-tracker, and they are digitally identical but with a +0.7dB boost to the promo CD. The full-length CD also segues into the next track, although the volume of "Janie" is so low at this point, you'd only notice if you had the volume "pumped" (pun intended). So, yes, the promo CD does continue for about :03 longer, but even boosting the volume +25dB, you can barely hear anything (negligable, IMO).

I also noticed that the promo CD single uses the actual Pump LP version but just edits off the intro. You can hear the glass harp sound effect overlapping the first note. I believe what has been reported in this thread is that the cassette single opens in the same way as the "Remix" with no overlapping sound effect and a split second of additional audio that is not heard on the full-length CD. If you listen to the "Remix," you can hear Steven Tyler make a slight noise just before the "chhh" sound. I know it's splitting hairs, but techincally, the promo CD doesn't have the cassette single version, and yes, technically that means the cassette single is a unique version still MIA on CD.


I was under the impression that the 45/single version was essentially the equivalent of the LP version minus the intro. And because the "LP Version" on the promo CD single release doesn't contain the Pump LP intro, I decided to compare it to the 45/single version to see if they are identical. But since I don't have a copy of the cassette single, which was the only commercial single format issued for "Janie's Got a Gun" in the U.S., I used the Aerosmith Big Ones CD (Geffen 24716) as the basis for my "45 version" comparison with the so-called "LP Version" on the promo CD single. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have used the Big Ones CD as a "45 version" reference point in the first place because there's no guarantee that it's mastered identically in every way to what's actually on the on cassette single, including the length and speed. That said, there is a slight, yet noticeable speed difference between those two sources, so now I'm wondering if there's also a similar speed difference between the actual single version and LP version?

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Originally posted by sheardbeard sheardbeard wrote:

Getting crazy specific here, but I noticed even the “chhh” is a different
“chhh” in the “mm-chhh” vs “chhh” intros. 🤪


LOL! No worries, sheardbeard, you're in good company here when it comes to being hyper-focused on minutia!

By the way, I never knew it was possible to type emoticons on this message board... Can you generate them here or just simply copy and paste them from elsewhere?
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Originally posted by edtop40 edtop40 wrote:

guys......just so you know.....the cassingle has a slightly different intro than the full cd version.....i've tried matching the intro that is on the cd "pump" but i can't match it correctly.....the cd "pump" has about 0:10 of banter before the song starts.....the cassingle isn't just a straight clip of the banter, it seams to have additional banter that isn't on the full cd/lp version......

I'm basing my assumption on this comment, but I still need to hear the cassette single to know if the "additional banter" Ed is talking about is what can be heard on the "Remix."
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Originally posted by Todd Ireland Todd Ireland wrote:

By the way, I never knew it
was possible to type emoticons on this message board... Can you generate
them here or just simply copy and paste them from elsewhere?
I
typed my earlier message (and this one) from my phone and apparently the
emoticon “took”   😁👍🏻🎶 🎼🎵🎧🎸🥁

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