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 Topic: after 7--heat of the momentPosted: 01 April 2005 at 6:36pm |
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can anyone shed some light on an issue me and todd/paul have been mulling........in whitburn's book "top pop singles 1955-93" he claims that the first release of after 7's song "heat of the moment" was issued in 1989 and entered the top 100 charts on 10-21-89 as virgin 99204, which is the same catalog number as the version that made the charts on 11-24-90.......he claims that the first release had a run time of 4:20 and the re-release had a run time of 6:10........i've never located a 6:10 run time on a single.....BUT........after looking back at the actual top 100 charts from that time the billboard charts state the single version as 99704......has anyone ever had the 99704 single in their collection???????.........it is possible that whitburn got the 6:10 run time for the re-release because the 12" has a version called " 12" one world remix" which runs 6:18 in length.........the question is, does anyone have the virgin 99704 12 inch or cassingle of the song "heat of the moment"..........the single was only released as a 12" and cassingle...........no 45 was ever issued as 99704, according to the billboard charts........
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Posted: 01 April 2005 at 9:38pm |
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I have the promo single (Virgin 2753), but the disc is packed away. It's one I could dig for if you wanted me to look. In my database, the versions are 1)"Radio Heat" 2)"Percuss-A-Pella" and 3)"Extended Heat." I don't have the times listed, but I can try to locate the single.
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Posted: 02 April 2005 at 9:55am |
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aaron...thanks for the effort.......BUT........i'm looking for the 99704 catalog number.........if anyone has THAT catalog number.......
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Posted: 20 September 2005 at 9:42am |
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this ones been dead for awhile..........but does anyone have the 99204 catalog numbered cassingle???
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Posted: 20 September 2005 at 7:00pm |
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I have a cassingle with catalog number 99204 and it runs 4:20.
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Posted: 22 September 2005 at 7:33pm |
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the plot thickens.........i went back and looked at the actual billboard charts from 1991 when "heat of the moment" re-entered the charts....the catalog number is listed as virgin 4-96553 and NOT 99204 OR 99704......my conclusion is the reason the song re-entered the charts on jan 26, 1991 was because they issued a 12" version of the song with the cat # virgin 96553......the cassingle issed in 1989 was issued as virgin 99204 and NOT 99704 which billboard carried in error........billboard must have mistaken the cat # as 99704 when it first hit the charts and not the correct cat number as 99204....
MY conclusion.......all the books should be revised to show the song peaking the week of feb 16, 1991 at number 19 as the 12" version issued as virgin 96553 and NOT virgin 99204 or 99704..... |
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Posted: 23 September 2005 at 7:44am |
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Here is the official RR story on this one:
All the books have now been revised to show the catalog number of Virgin 99204 for both the 7" vinyl single and the cassette single re-entry. Both are the same version and both run 4:20. The 12" really has nothing to do with this at all. Billboard was notorious for showing wrong catalog numbers during the early 1990s. This is where we got confused and put in the 12" number by mistake. |
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Posted: 23 September 2005 at 4:23pm |
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paul....are you saying we cannot trust what billboard publishes???
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Posted: 23 September 2005 at 4:24pm |
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and what does "RR" mean
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Posted: 24 September 2005 at 8:38am |
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Hey Ed, I can see I need to clarify some things here.
1. I've worked for Record Research since 1992 (shortened to RR). This was mentioned in a previous post. Due to Pat's tremendous research and the great posters on this board, I've been able to correct a lot of 45 times for the Pop Annual book. 2. From 1989-91, there was a lot of confusion about all the different single formats (7" vinyl, 12" vinyl, cassettes, CDs) and once in awhile Billboard would put a wrong catalog number on the chart (I was a collector at that time and I was sometimes confused trying to match up the numbers). By 1992 they really got it together and have done a fine job ever since! |
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