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    Posted: 02 June 2009 at 7:23pm
Can't find anything on any continued collections. Are they done at 1971 11B?
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I was wondering that myself.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eriejwg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 December 2012 at 11:36pm
3 1/2 years later, I'm guessing this project did indeed
finish at 1971.
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I gave up hope also.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian W. Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 December 2012 at 10:11pm
Yes, they can't get the rights to some of the songs for
1972 (the theory is it's Stevie Wonder's stuff, as he owns
all his own masters starting in 1972, but I don't really
know). And they said they would not issue an incomplete
volume. So it appears the series will end with 1972,
unfortunately.

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Yes, it will end with 1971, unfortunately. And it's true - someone at Motown/Universal told me that it was indeed because of the Stevie Wonder masters - Universal apparently licensed all the songs but the Stevie singles, so the 1972 boxed set will not come out because it would be missing 3 Stevie Wonder singles (including one that only peaked at #90). Too bad for the other 297 Motown singles (including many that have never been released on CD). (Actually, I don't know the true number but it's a lot larger than the 3 they couldn't license.)

This also means there obviously can't be any boxed sets for future years either. It's too bad Stevie Wonder himself is the reason for the discontinuation of the series. It's not like Motown wouldn't pay him for the use of his songs (and I'm sure they wouldn't even insist on 3/4 rate, as record labels often do.) So I don't know why Stevie is so opposed. But obviously there is now bad blood between Motown & Stevie Wonder.

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Really? Only THREE songs? Then I think they are foolish to not issue the final volumes.

Was Stevie's final mono single "What Christmas Means to Me," issued on the Motown 1971B volume? I'm not sure he had any mono singles after that, so omitting them from a Motown 1972 volume would not be much of a loss.
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As far as I know, yes it's just the Stevie Wonder singles that are stopping the 1972 boxed set from happening. I'd suggested they simply take out the word "Complete" from the box title and issue the set with 99% of the songs, but their response was they wouldn't put out the box at all if they couldn't do the "Complete" version.
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Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

As far as I know, yes it's just the Stevie Wonder
singles that are stopping the 1972 boxed set from happening. I'd
suggested they simply take out the word "Complete" from the box title
and issue the set with 99% of the songs, but their response was they
wouldn't put out the box at all if they couldn't do the "Complete" version.
I find that quite puzzling to hear, since there has already been
"project precedent" to do exactly that - leave off tracks they couldn't
license. As I recall, there were already close to a dozen, pre-1972 Rare
Earth 45 releases that had been left off previous volumes in this series.
The liner notes clearly explained that the reason for their omission was
that these 45s were originally issued in a foreign country, that Motown
simply leased these masters for the U.S. at the time, and that Motown no
longer owned the rights to be able to again include them here. Granted,
none of these omitted Rare Earth 45 releases charted at all, and their
exclusion, while sad for the "completion-ists" among us, had minimal
public impact. Obviously, the same cannot be said for Stevie Wonder,
despite 1972 being a particularly weak chart year for him. But still, all his
1972 tracks are already available on other CDs. Does anyone think it
possible that Harry Weinger simply went ahead, long ago, expecting no
license issues, and had all 5000 "TCMS 1972: Part One" CD copies pressed
up? Which now precludes him from going ahead and removing
"Superwoman/I Love Every Little Thing About You", which was the only 45
Stevie Wonder issued in the first half of 1972? (Both "Keep On Running",
"Superstition" and their flip sides would have appeared on the "1972: Part
Two" set.) To me, there's *no* other rational explanation for all the work
Weinger & Co, had done to have simply been "abandoned", and for this set
to still not ever see the light of day, albeit in a "slightly amended form."
Clearly, these 1972 sets would've sold just as well as the others had (if
not better, given the delays), with or without the 6 Stevie Wonder sides.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote EdisonLite Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 December 2012 at 1:18pm
That's interesting! I didn't know that about the Rare Earth songs. There is precedent! The only thing I can think is Weinger considers Wonder a more significant artist than Rare Earth (which is the case, but still...)

I doubt they would have pressed up 5000 box sets without having everything cleared. Universal's a major label and I just can't see them doing that. Plus, they probably already knew Stevie was a question mark, with him owning his 1972+ masters.
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