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    Posted: 07 July 2005 at 8:34am
anyone know if there was a usa promo cd single issued for this song from 1991.......the only cd sgl i can find is a uk issue.......
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Joel Whitburn shows "Word to the Mutha!" as only an album cut in his Top Pop Singles 1955-1999 book, so a promo CD single probably does not exist for this song.
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Well, TM Century issued the song in two different versions on their HitDisc series for radio stations. The mixes they issued were "Radio Mentality with Rap" and "Radio Mentality Without Rap," which leads me to believe that there was a promo single.
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that might not be completely true because both of those versions are on the uk cd sgl issued in 1991 on mcstd 1587
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You're right, TM could have pulled the songs from an import single; however, those HitDiscs were released on 7/26/1991 and 8/30/1991 respectively, which I'm assuming is before the song hit the charts (since TM usually always services songs to radio before they're commercially released and become radio hits). I'm only drawing my conclusion based on this evidence, but I have no proof that a promo single actually exists.

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you might be right about that because "word to tha mutha" debuted on the billboard airplay chart on 9/28/91
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Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

Well, TM Century issued the song in two different versions on their HitDisc series for radio stations. The mixes they issued were "Radio Mentality with Rap" and "Radio Mentality Without Rap," which leads me to believe that there was a promo single.


If a song was never made available on a commercial single format, Whitburn will usually indicate in his Top Pop Singles book if a promo single was issued for that particular song. He doesn't specifically list one for "Word to the Mutha!", which is why I suspect one may not exist.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote aaronk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2005 at 12:31am
www.gemm.com lists a handful of CD singles, but it's hard to say which are promo singles and which are commercial singles without actually e-mailing the sellers. Most of the sellers who have the CD in stock are overseas, but I've seen several of these overseas sellers end up with copies of US promo singles before. I guess a good way to find out is to ask them :)
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I was able to obtain a copy of the mixes from HitDisc to compare with the UK import CD single versions. The "Radio Mentality without Rap" (4:12) is identical to the same version on the import CD single that Ed mentions.

The "Radio Mentality WITH Rap" is a different version than what's on the import single, though. The HitDisc version runs (4:49), and it is not simply just a longer fade. This version has a different intro, too, when compared with the (3:50) import CD single version.

In doing some research, I found that a promo 12" exists containing the longer (4:50 listed) "with rap" version. I can say with 100% certainty that the version on HitDisc is NOT a vinyl dub. There is absolutely no trace of vinyl noise or noise reduction on their copy, and I have been able to spot even their best vinyl dubs.

While it is still a mystery where their versions come from, we can at least rule out that it isn't the UK import single; however, one of the other import singles (Japan, Germany) may contain the longer "with rap" mix.
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Just today, I e-mailed an eBay seller about the Japanese CD single for "Word To The Mutha," and he confirmed that the run times are 4:14 and 4:53. Apparently, the Japan and UK CD singles have different "with rap" mixes, which would explain where TM Century got their copies!
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