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    Posted: 20 February 2008 at 2:55pm
my cassingle issued as columbia 77254 contains, as the A-side, the "remix" version which runs 5:58......the cardboard sleeves states "special version taken from the columbia release "river of dreams"....mixed by joe nicolo, remix engineer phil nicolo, asst remix engineer dirk grobelny"....then its says "guest vocals by color me badd".......i didn't realize this nor do i hear them, but they're credited on the sleeve......this should be noted
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The database describes the version on every CD other than River Of Dreams as "remixed; LP version". As far as I can tell, this is the single version (both vinyl and cassette).
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The single version is a radio edit. The LP version is not the single version.

https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-All-About-Soul/release/43 82333

The remix you speak of is 5:58 and was also available on CD single:

https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-All-About-Soul/release/22 87684

The vinyl contains the 5:58 remix

https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-All-About-Soul/release/43 27706


Hope that clears up any confusion.

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That’s actually not accurate. The “Single Version” on the US promo CD,
as Rich said, would be considered a DJ/radio edit (promo single
version) and not the US single version. I do agree that the shorter
radio edit is the “hit” version, but Pat would classify it as a “DJ edit.”

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Originally posted by Loveland Loveland wrote:

A member here once said that the single
version of
You Oughtta Know doesn't exist because it was
never
released comedically in the U.S. (!).


That would be me. You're referring to the conversation we had on the Expose "I Wish The Phone Would Ring" thread several months ago. Sorry that after all this time, it seems so hard for you to understand why and how many of us label a song "Single Version" or not. It's been explained more than once and by more than one person. We can all debate the subject, but ultimately, no one is going to change anyone's opinion.

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It has been the standard practice in the fifteen year history of this board (as well as in Pat's publications in what we now call the database appeared in book form; a total of about thirty years) that any reference to a "single version" is to the U.S. commercial single version unless otherwise specified.

There have definitely been instances (and this may well be one of them) in which a strong argument can be made that the commercial single version was not the "hit" version, especially in the 1990s ("Ice Ice Baby", "Feels Good", "2 Legit 2 Quit", and of course "You Outta Know").
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Originally posted by Paul C Paul C wrote:

There have definitely been instances (and this may well be one of them) in which a strong argument can be made that the commercial single version was not the "hit" version, especially in the 1990s ("Ice Ice Baby", "Feels Good", "2 Legit 2 Quit", and of course "You Outta Know").


Good points. Soul II Soul's "Back To Life (However Do You Want Me)" would fall under that category as well.
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Yes, for most of us, when we say "single version" we
mean the "commercial single version."

But I do always find it intriguing when there is a
promo-only "single version," and I often wonder if that
was the "intended" single version that didn't get used
for whatever reason.

I still wonder if the short version of Billy Joel's
"Tell Her About It" from his "Greatest Hits" album was
the "intended" single version, since its run time
matches the run time listed on the original 45.

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