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 Posted: 21 March 2020 at 5:03pm |
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No, I'm actually not incorrect. The "single version" to us here on this forum means something very specific. Whether the "Single Version" on the promo CD was intended to be released or not is irrelevant. What matters to us forum members and database subscribers is what actually appeared on the US commercial single. That's what we call "45 version" or "single version," which may or may not be the "hit" version as others have pointed out. I already said that I agree the "hit" version of "All About Soul" is the shorter "Single Version" from the US promo CD single. Hit version and single version to us are two different things. |
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Posted: 21 March 2020 at 6:00pm |
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Does anyone know the edit points for this?
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Posted: 22 March 2020 at 12:35am |
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I have the radio edit on a TM Century Golddisc -- by
1993, I suspect they had the official label edit. From a quick listen on bad laptop speakers, I'm noticing two edits. The first edit removes the second verse and first half of the second chorus, from roughly 1:28 to 2:51. The second edit removes 8 bars from the edit, roughly 5:13 to 5:29. When I get a chance, I'll analyze more carefully but in case that doesn't happen soon, wanted to share what I see. Hope everyone's staying safe! Edited by eric_a |
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Posted: 22 March 2020 at 9:09am |
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I think it's also slightly sped up, but I could be wrong.
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Posted: 22 March 2020 at 10:07pm |
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I have the promo CD single of this and here are the
details from Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/Billy-Joel-All-About- Soul/release/4382333 |
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Posted: 29 March 2020 at 11:42pm |
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Listening on headphones, this is more complex than I'd initially realized. There are four cuts, including a crossfade and one out-of-sequence edit. The times below refer to the 5 segments from the original commercial CD single. Here's what I'm hearing: 1. (0:00-1:27). This keeps the introduction, first verse and chorus intact. 2. (~2:51-4:22). This crossfades in, reaching full volume two bars before the "na-na" refrain. The 2:51 mark is where this clip reaches full volume, but it fades in a few beats earlier -- you can hear remnants of Billy's voice on "Soulllll," an octave up from the vocal on "Soullll" from the previous clip fading out. Then, midway through the next chorus (after "Who's standing today and who's standing tomorrow") we jump back to the *previous* chorus. 3. (2:32-2:47). This section comes from the second chorus and starts "This life isn't fair". 4. (3:13-3:47). Cuts on the word "Soul". 5. (5:29-End). Cuts on the downbeat, after "yes it is", and keeps the original fade. As Loveland referenced, the official video appears to use the same edit, if you want to hear it. (I guess Color Me Badd was busy when they shot the video.) Finally, to Doug's point, I didn't detect any difference between my commercial CD single and the radio edit, at least on the Golddisc, but it's possible that both are sped up from the LP version. Edited by eric_a |
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Posted: 30 March 2020 at 12:25pm |
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Thanks for the edit points. When I heard the album
version, I always suspected that the single edit was not that straightforward. They really carved up and rearranged this one! |
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Posted: 30 March 2020 at 8:31pm |
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Why would they go back to the second chorus for an out of sequence edit?
I can see why it only made #29. |
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Posted: 30 March 2020 at 8:33pm |
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For some reason, Billy's vocal during the final verse is his live vocal, followed by going back to the studio version. |
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Posted: 30 March 2020 at 8:49pm |
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FYI, both the "Single Version" (track 1 from the promo CD single) and the "Remix" (track 2 from the promo CD single) are sped up by about 1.9% or 2.0%, compared with the LP version. The song is not played with a click track, so the tempo varies over the course of the song.
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